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Sean Sherk vs. BJ Penn (title fight)

Keith Jardine vs. Wanderlei Silva

Tito Ortiz vs. Lyoto Machida

Rashad Evans vs. Thiago Silva

Prelims:
Jeremy Stephens vs. Terry Etim

Rousimar Palhares vs. Ivan Salaverry

Goran Reljic vs. Wilson Gouveia

Dong-Hyun Kim vs. Jason Tan

My predictions:
-Sean Sherk wins early 2nd round via TKO. (I love BJ, but I think Sherk's got it)
-Wandy wins 30-27 by Decision (Snaps the losing streak)
-Machida wins by TKO 4 minutes into 1st Round (Sends Tito out of the UFC with a loss)
-Rashad Evans wins by KO early 2nd Round (Tough one)
-Stephens wins by TKO 1st Round
-Salaverry wins via submission 2nd Round
-Reljic wins by Decision in his debut
-Don't know either fighter

I'm very excited, and this is one of the best cards I've ever seen. Should be some great fights. What do you guys think?
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I might try and buy tickets to this fight if I have the money. It's my last week of school, and would be a hell of a way to start off the summer.
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Look for Penn for submissions through the first two rounds, but I have a feeling he will gas by the 3rd if it goes there. His cardio is still questionable, but I hope he does win and moves up to fight GSP again.

Silva/Jardine is a bad matchup for Silva. I feel Jardine is someone that comes in with good gameplans. Look at Jardine/Liddell or even Jardine/Forrest. I could see Jardine with a decision, but I really want Wandy back.

The Ortiz/Machida match will be Tito's last match in the UFC for a long while. Regardless of how good Machida is, I feel Tito riding out a decision. Tito will win, but it will be a half assed attempt. Lay and pray all day.

Rashad/Silva will hopefully really test Rashad. Thiago needs this win, but Rashad's wrestiling will prevail. I hope Thiago lands one hell of a punch or knee in the clinch and sends Rashad out, but Rashad will win this with wrestling.

Etim will pull off the victory with a sub.

Salaverry needs this win to stay with the UFC. I am a fan of the Fruit Bat and I hope to see him back in title contention. I see a sub by the second round.

Reljic/Gouveia will be a good match. I have yet to see Reljic fight, but I hear good things about him. I hope to see how good he is in this fight, but they won't show this fight on PPV.

Don't know much about the last fight, so I hope for a double ko.
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Very nice fight card indeed. That title fight should be awesome.

Am I wrong, or didn't Tito retire? I could have sworn he retired but I guess I'm wrong.
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Very nice fight card indeed. That title fight should be awesome.

Am I wrong, or didn't Tito retire? I could have sworn he retired but I guess I'm wrong.
No, Tito's ego is overtaking him. He said that if Dana doesn't leave the UFC, then he will leave. Don't care there, Tito is a dull fighter now. His time is over.
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No, Tito's ego is overtaking him. He said that if Dana doesn't leave the UFC, then he will leave. Don't care there, Tito is a dull fighter now. His time is over.
Yeah, that's definitely true.

It sucks because Liddell is really starting to fade as well.
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Sherk via TKO?

Two questions, what are you smoking, and can I have some? When was the last time Sherk beat anyone of significance by TKO? He's a "lay and pray" artist, and if he does win, it'll be by boring LnP descision.

If the MMA gods decide to give me what I most dearly want, it's Sherk being KO'd or Sub'd in the first round, and then testing positive for juice again.
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Sherk via TKO?

Two questions, what are you smoking, and can I have some? When was the last time Sherk beat anyone of significance by TKO? He's a "lay and pray" artist, and if he does win, it'll be by boring LnP descision.

If the MMA gods decide to give me what I most dearly want, it's Sherk being KO'd or Sub'd in the first round, and then testing positive for juice again.
I want BJ to win, I'm not smoking anything. Everyone wants BJ to win, but I don't think he's going to. Most of his fights go to decision, and you're right he is a lay and pray artist. I just feel like he has more power and wrestling skills than BJ, and he'll be able to get a tko from a mount. Since BJ has an amazing guard and flexibility, it doesn't seem likely but I just see the fight ending that way.

There were a lot of holes in that test he tested positive for. There are a few articles from it, as well as multiple sources with the same story. I'm not a huge fan of Sherk's, but I think he'll come out on top.
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Sherk via TKO?

Two questions, what are you smoking, and can I have some? When was the last time Sherk beat anyone of significance by TKO? He's a "lay and pray" artist, and if he does win, it'll be by boring LnP descision.

If the MMA gods decide to give me what I most dearly want, it's Sherk being KO'd or Sub'd in the first round, and then testing positive for juice again.
No, he has a point. Penn/Hughes 2 was a perfect example. Penn when in there, giving everything he had on Hughes for the first 2 rounds. 3rd round starts and Matt has Penn in the crucifix. Now, I will take into consideration that BJ had a rib injury, but I also will say he gassed since he did the same thing when he fought GSP.

Sherk has 2 losses on his record, 1 to GSP tko and 1 to Hughes via decision. 2 top level fighters. BJ needs to have his cardio in top shape for this fight. After Sherk went through France and Florian, I wonder if Sherk can be stopped. His wrestling is just to much for LW fighters.

On a side note, Xyience, the company that the UFC supports went bankrupt. When Sherk failed to roids, some of Xyience's products were tested and did contain roids in them. I will take Sherk's word on not taking roids just because his workouts are that intense to make someone that big in the LW class.
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UFC 84 Card

Sean Sherk vs. BJ Penn (title fight)

Keith Jardine vs. Wanderlei Silva

Tito Ortiz vs. Lyoto Machida

Rashad Evans vs. Thiago Silva

Prelims:
Jeremy Stephens vs. Terry Etim

Rousimar Palhares vs. Ivan Salaverry

Goran Reljic vs. Wilson Gouveia

Dong-Hyun Kim vs. Jason Tan

My predictions:
-Sean Sherk wins early 2nd round via TKO. (I love BJ, but I think Sherk's got it)
-Wandy wins 30-27 by Decision (Snaps the losing streak)
-Machida wins by TKO 4 minutes into 1st Round (Sends Tito out of the UFC with a loss)
-Rashad Evans wins by KO early 2nd Round (Tough one)
-Stephens wins by TKO 1st Round
-Salaverry wins via submission 2nd Round
-Reljic wins by Decision in his debut
-Don't know either fighter

I'm very excited, and this is one of the best cards I've ever seen. Should be some great fights. What do you guys think?
Sherk vs. Penn - Sean Sherk won't do sh.t without his steroids, bank on it. I'm saying BJ will win by submission because there is no way Sherk can out grapple him and he's probably lost a huge chunk of his strength.

Jardine vs. Silva - Keith Jardine might be the most overrated fighter in the light heavyweight divsion. Apparently when you beat Chuck you become top 5 fighter. Wanderlei Will win by TKO.

Ortiz vs. Machida - You'd think f..king Jenna Jameson on top of a mountain would increase your stamina and cardio and make you be able to go 10 rounds, but it won't. Machida will wear Ortiz down in the first round and finish him the second round by ref. stoppage.

Evans vs. (T)Silva - I don't know who will win this one Silva probably will but Rashad is sorta the upset king. But I think I'll bank on the safe side and go with Silva. He'll win by split 2-1.

I don't care about the under card fights so I won't predict them.
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