Heres my question to Catholics and Cristians (and whoever else hates gays) - Page 21

davobrosia · #**201** (**permalink**) 07-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Cursed Lemon

"Omg Kant sez u shudnt do n e thing that evry1 shudnt do so if evry1 wuz ghey then tha wrld wud die"

F.ck your scategorical imperative.

Scategorical imperative...that should be the title of a porno. A Brazilian porno.

**NiceGuy** · #**202** (**permalink**) 07-28-2008

I already know the soundtrack, written by the leading actor

danoSNakE==[:]~ · #**203** (**permalink**) 08-26-2008

i only read like the 1st 5 posts so sorry if i am off topic. to answer the original question, God did not create imperfect humans. He started off with perfect human beings. the reason there are gays and all that other stuff is because of imperfection. it sucks to be imperfect, but that is what just happened by eve eating the fruit. because of one man, sin entered into the world, and the wages sin pays is death. Now FREE WILL has alot to do with CHOOSING to not live a homosexual lifestyle. The Bible forbids homosexuality, but if a person is born gay, he can either choose a lifestyle that makes God happy or one that is detestable to God. To clear things up on "Hell", it is not a literal place. it is just the grave of man, because the bible says that the condition of the dead is like a deep sleep. for more information on hell, visit the website below.

http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020715/article_02.htm

for information on how God views homosexuality visit this website

http://www.watchtower.org/e/200702b/article_01.htm

WicKeD ASSaSiN · #**204** (**permalink**) 08-26-2008

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Originally Posted by TooMuchButtHair

Chemistry, more than anything, does indeed dictate HOW one, thinks, WHAT one thinks, WHEN one thinks, etc, etc, etc. I recall seeing earlier that a wide variety of neurochemicals, like serotonin, have been observed to increase levels of religiosity in individuals who produce more of the stuff naturally. The funny thing is that when the brain produces large amounts of tryptamines (doesn't really matter the particular variety) or if large amounts are ingested, people tend to more easily believe things are there, that aren't. It's easy to fool the brain. . .too easy.

It's been postulated, but only loosely supported, that hyper religious folks' brains are cranking moderately larger amounts of native 'drugs' (see dimethyltryptammine) that put them in almost a blissful state. Again, it's only loosely supported, and only a single study has been done on the topic. Fascinating stuff nonetheless.

Neurophilosophy and materialism are such self-defeating arguments. If your saying all our thoughts are simply chemical or physical reactions then I bite my thumb at you.

TooMuchButtHair · #**205** (**permalink**) 08-26-2008

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Originally Posted by WicKeD ASSaSiN

Neurophilosophy and materialism are such self-defeating arguments. If your saying all our thoughts are simply chemical or physical reactions then I bite my thumb at you.

That's not what I'm saying at all. It's far more complicated than that. The anatomy and physiology of the brain cannot be simplified. The brain can be subdivided into lobes, sub lobes, etc etc etc down to neural junctions.

What I am saying is that thought can be disrupted, or even alerted if the chemical environment of the brain is changed. We know sensation is nothing more than neurotransmitters (again, simplistically). Why should thought be much different? It sort of is, but again. . .

Froggy618157725 · #**206** (**permalink**) 08-26-2008

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Originally Posted by danoSNakE==[:]~

i only read like the 1st 5 posts so sorry if i am off topic. to answer the original question, God did not create imperfect humans. He started off with perfect human beings. the reason there are gays and all that other stuff is because of imperfection. it sucks to be imperfect, but that is what just happened by eve eating the fruit. because of one man, sin entered into the world, and the wages sin pays is death. Now FREE WILL has alot to do with CHOOSING to not live a homosexual lifestyle. The Bible forbids homosexuality, but if a person is born gay, he can either choose a lifestyle that makes God happy or one that is detestable to God. To clear things up on "Hell", it is not a literal place. it is just the grave of man, because the bible says that the condition of the dead is like a deep sleep. for more information on hell, visit the website below.

http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020715/article_02.htm

for information on how God views homosexuality visit this website

http://www.watchtower.org/e/200702b/article_01.htm

If G_d created human beings as perfect, there would be no way for them to become imperfect. If you've got a perfect computer, up until it's hard drive fails, it obviously wasn't quite perfect now, was it? Perfection is such an artificial term anyways. We've got no standard of comparison, and all meaningful uses of perfect are based on artificial constructs.

I dunno 'bout you, but living a lie seems pretty detestable to me... Surely you must at least be honest with yourself.

**NiceGuy** · 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TooMuchButtHair

That's not what I'm saying at all. It's far more complicated than that. The anatomy and physiology of the brain cannot be simplified. The brain can be subdivided into lobes, sub lobes, etc etc etc down to neural junctions.

What I am saying is that thought can be disrupted, or even alerted if the chemical environment of the brain is changed. We know sensation is nothing more than neurotransmitters (again, simplistically). Why should thought be much different? It sort of is, but again. . .

My thoughts changed when I ingested lysergic acid diethylamide.

edit: scratch "changed" and put "enhanced"

TooMuchButtHair · #**208** (**permalink**) 08-26-2008

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Originally Posted by NiceGuy

My thoughts changed when I ingested lysergic acid diethylamide.

edit: scratch "changed" and put "enhanced"

I was thinking more along the lines of. . .but. . .yeah. . .I do see what you're saying

Cursed Lemon · #**209** (**permalink**) 08-26-2008

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Originally Posted by danoSNakE==[:]~

i only read like the 1st 5 posts so sorry if i am off topic. to answer the original question, God did not create imperfect humans. He started off with perfect human beings. the reason there are gays and all that other stuff is because of imperfection. it sucks to be imperfect, but that is what just happened by eve eating the fruit. because of one man, sin entered into the world, and the wages sin pays is death. Now FREE WILL has alot to do with CHOOSING to not live a homosexual lifestyle. The Bible forbids homosexuality, but if a person is born gay, he can either choose a lifestyle that makes God happy or one that is detestable to God. To clear things up on "Hell", it is not a literal place. it is just the grave of man, because the bible says that the condition of the dead is like a deep sleep. for more information on hell, visit the website below.

http://www.watchtower.org/e/20020715/article_02.htm

for information on how God views homosexuality visit this website

http://www.watchtower.org/e/200702b/article_01.htm

Wait.

Did you seriously just link us to Watchtower.org?

Publik Uprising · #**210** (**permalink**) 08-26-2008

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Originally Posted by Cursed Lemon

Wait.

Did you seriously just link us to Watchtower.org?

Based on how he posted and his post count, I'd say he's extremely new to the forum and hasn't read many threads.

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