How about testiments from actual homosexuals who say they've never made the conscious choice? It hasn't been proven to be either natural or unnatural.

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Well I had quite a debatable rant that recieved such a great response from you.
On topic, this is why I don't believe in a god.

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Just because the south hates yanks doesn't mean we're bad people. You are.

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I thaught you liked it when I'm bad.

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But the process STARTED with God. Therefore, God set everything into motion...everything that would affect our decision making, when he knows exactly what will happen. So he created humanity for the purpose of letting some people into heaven and some people he casts into hell automatically.

And as far as homosexuality goes...have they located the "straight gene" yet?

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You are not created homosexual.

The bible teaches that you become homosexual as a result of that persons sins.


Romans 1:24-27

24. Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves: 25. for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26. For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature: 27. and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due.

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FCMCA

I swear this is the second time I have posted this, this week.

Homosexuality is natural.

It occurs in every species with no exceptions.

Incest, hermaphroditic reproduction, asexual reproduction, and even extra-special reproduction occurs naturally everywhere.

Anyone that says that Homosexuality isn't natural. . . has their eyes closed at all times.

And for those that are too lazy to do any research for themselves, I will do a 5 minute search for ya and post what I find:


One for ya:

Author: Miller, Edward M.
Citation: Archives of Sexual Behavior 0004-0002 Oct 1999, v28 i5, p419
Year: 1999
Subject: McKnight, Jim Straight Science? Homosexuality, Evolution and Adaptation (Book)


Second for ya:
Title: Evidence for homosexuality gene
Citation: Science v 261 July 16 1993. p. 291-2
Year: 1993
Abstract: In this issue of Science, geneticist Dean Hamer and colleagues at the National Cancer Institute report a study linking some instances of male homosexuality to a small stretch of DNA on the X chromosome. When the geneticists traced the family trees of 76 homosexual men, they found that a disproportionate 13.5 percent of the volunteers' brothers were also homosexual and that the men had more gay relatives on the maternal side than on the paternal side. This finding suggested that a homosexuality gene, if one exists, is located on the X chromosome, which is inherited exclusively from the mother. A subsequent genetic linkage analysis of DNA samples from 40 pairs of homosexual brothers pointed to an area near the end of the long arm of the chromosome as the likely site of such a gene. If the finding is confirmed, it could someday lead to a better understanding of the biological basis of homosexuality and of sexual orientation in general. .

Third for ya:
Title: Evidence for a biological influence in male homosexuality
Citation: Scientific American v 270 May 1994. p. 44-9
Year: 1994
Abstract: It is unlikely that any single factor can explain a trait as complex and variable as sexual orientation, but laboratory studies indicate that genes and brain development play a significant role. A brain cell group called the third interstitial nucleus of the anterior hypothalamus has been found to vary in size with gender and with sexual orientation. Family studies have found that the brothers of homosexual men, especially twin brothers, are more likely than men without gay brothers to be gay themselves. Gay brothers are also more likely than others to share matching genes in an X chromosome region called Xq28.

Fourth for ya:
Resource: ScienceDirect (Elsevier)
Title: Born gay? The psychobiology of human sexual orientation
Author: Qazi Rahman and Glenn D. Wilson
Citation: Personality and Individual Differences 06/30/2003: (Volume 34, Issue 8) p. 1337
Year: 2003


Fifth for ya:
Resource: ScienceDirect (Elsevier)
Title: Focus on Xq28
Author: David Sharp
Citation: The Lancet 07/24/1993: (Volume 342, Issue 8865) p. 231
Year: 1993


Sixth for ya:
Resource: ScienceDirect (Elsevier)
Title: Taxometric Analyses of Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity
Author: Steven W. Gangestad
Add.Author / Editor: J. Michael Bailey and Nicholas G. Martin
Citation: Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 06/30/2000: (Volume 78, Issue 6) p. 1109
Year: 2000


And one for fun:
Resource: Expanded Academic ASAP (Thomson Gale)
Title: Is the Genome the Secular Equivalent of the Soul?: (bibliography included)(Critical Essay)
Author: Mauron, Alex
Citation: Science 0036-8075 Feb 2, 2001, v291 i5505, p831
Year: 2001
Subject: Genomes Research
Human genetics Research
Genetic research Ethical aspects
Bioethics Analysis


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Now I know I didn't include any bible references and I put up all these published and scientifically reviewed papers by real doctors full of evidence up there, so don't take my word on it. Take their's.

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According to Christianity, it is a sin.

All sins are "natural" per say. There's never been a person who hasn't sinned by definition of the Bible.

But to say that God hates anyone is outrageous.

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If God doesn't hate anybody, he has no reason to send them to Hell.

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Think for yourself.
Question authority.

Oh and my post was for 007 and bishop or anyone else that thinks that homosexuality is unnatural.

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