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Originally Posted by Spooky  I accept the intelligence in your sentiment, I understand that the differences in our argument are based on the fact that I am not a religious person. My views are based on my favor of science, philosophy, and social empathy. So your scripture quotes fall on deaf ears, but nevertheless allow your fellow agonist to appreciate your knowledge on the subject you are defending.
My stance on "god's" intention involving homosexuals is that creation has no emotional investments in our choice of sex partners nor any other living thing. |
Wow, I'm honestly profoundly amazed that you were so polite to me
. You're the first person who seems rationally intelligent and actually accepts the fellow debaters point of view on a debatable issue. Thank you, for that, I commend you and appreciate your response which you also seem very much educated on. Back on track now...
This is what your original statement was. "I do not think that there is a being that makes an effort to have an opinion on my sexual partner."
My response to you by using bible verses was to say that yes, there is a superioir being, and also that, yes he does in fact have an opinion on your sexual partner.
Sex is more than physical (although many people, especially men, would not agree) it is also emotional and spiritual. The unifying of two bodies into one, and the giving of ones self to another. I would say that's pretty spiritual and emotional. Matthew 19:4-6 is Jesus talking to a group of Pharisees, He said...
"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one."
It's just that the media and todays society has succesfully annihilated the purpose of sex. So many many people have a very twisted scewed view of what sex was even intended for.
The entire rest of your post under the part of which I highlighted I would break down into 4 sections....
1. "Not every living thing needs a female mate to reproduce (take account of the self breeding plants and animals)"
I would agree with this. God created them that way, so let them multiply accordingly.
2. "You are only addressing a problem that affects people who want to have children naturally (also ignoring the unnatural process of artificial insemination)."
I am addressing all people. I think it is wrong for the same sex to be with one another romantically/sexually. That's not how it's supposed to be. Male and female were created for one another, not female for female, and not male for male. Genesis 2:18-24 says this...
Then the LORD God said, "It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him." Now out of the ground the LORD God had formed every beast of the field and every bird of the heavens and brought them to the man to see what he would call them. And whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. The man gave names to all livestock and to the birds of the heavens and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper fit for him. So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh. And the rib that the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. Then the man said, "This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
3. "The fact that I might enjoy the company of a female companion occasionally in my own private life, I hope, would not be an issue with my ethics."
I would say that the passage above is pretty clear that what you wrote above is wrong. Doesn't matter if it's your own private life or not. Doesn't matter if it's occasionally or not. It's wrong.
4. "The concept of homosexuality is a socially created phobia. There is no such thing as "we are not supposed to", that only applies to ethics."
I believe, and so does the bible, that homosexuality is wrong. Does that mean I hate gay people? No. Ethics is philosophy, and according to ethics yes, it is unethical to be homosexual as well.
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