If you do not believe in God, then praying is pointless..

Though I would like to know waht your reasons for being agnostic are...

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when my grandma died, i was 12, therefore, i didnt really think too much about religion and how it applied to me.

my reasons for being agnostic are my own and they would only start an agrument/flamewar.

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I am not calling you in personally stupid or illogical, I'm saying that there is little logic in what you believe in. There is a difference. It would be a waste of time to state my ideas right now, because they change pretty often. I'm still in the process of developing a life philosophy so I can't really get into it too much right now or it would sound like a big unorganized mess because that's what it is right now. But for a small dose of it, here goes:

I believe there could be a God, but if there is he has most likely moved on to other projects. He probably stuck around here for the first few thousand years of man's existence once the Earth was capable of supporting human life, just to check on us. He handed down some rules and left, but didn't stick around to see that they were really followed through properly and some idioctic religions were formed. Then he came back and left his son and once again didn't stick around to make sure everything went OK, and so more stupid religions were spawned and he hasn't been back since. If he has been back then he obviously doesn't care because as advanced as we are as a civilization we are f..king stupid when it comes to being human beings.

That's just a little taste of my ideas about things, I have more specific details that are being hashed out, but as far as this planet being a "perfect" creation by an omnipotent being.....Well, let's just say I drop my head and shake it from side to side when I hear people say that.

Anyways, you can read through that again if you have questions, because I'm gonna play Halo until "Law and Order" comes on.


TMNT

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nice controdiction.

anyway.

my belief -

you cant prove god. if you can, do it now.
athesists cant disprove god.

no one has any proof, and it is all based on faith. i dont believe in faith, therefore, agnosticism is the only reliable relgion (for me)

bah, i dont care to argue religion anymore.

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Just because someone does something stupid or illogical doesn't mean that they themselves are stupid or illogical. I guarentee that you have done something stupid before, are you a stupid person? We learn from doing stupid things all the time. Learning makes us smarter, not stupid.

Faith isn't something you believe in, it's something you have or don't have. Agnosticism isn't a religion, it's a philisophical view.


TMNT

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Let me know if a doctor ever tells you that you've had a Temporal Seizure. . .

I didn't call you illogical, I said your belief was.

I can get pretty close to proof. The problem is that when I pray for something with the specific thought of it being proof, it is entirely ignored. It's a tad frustrating. It also requires doublethink, which, once again for the nth time, is amazing. In fact, it requires that the doublethink cancel itself out, too. Which, I suppose, it is supposed to anyways. But if you try that based on what I said, by it's very definition, it will fail. It's like an idea I'm checking out about making predictions. Although, by it's own definition, a proof of it would prove it wrong, it's worked whenever I've managed to use it. Doublethink is still amazing.

If you understood that paragraph, it might work for you.

If anyones interested in going over what I see as evidence for the existance of G_d with me over AIM, feel free to contact me. I have plenty of stuff that needs some sort of explanation.

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Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm the rest of his life.

Thanks to Shystie for avatar

If god supposedly answers your prayers than I want to see you pray for a Ferrari Enzo and get it magically in a couple of days. If that happens ill believe.

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Yep. Just wondering, how many times did iCeat say he prays for non materialistic things in this thread? Just wondering.

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Lmao, thanks for saying ti before I had to!

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