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The idea that religion drives science, and that science drives religion doesn't exist - that's what I meant. Religion is static, therefor it isn't 'driven' at all. If science really did drive religion, than there would have been massive changes in religious policies for the past several hundred years.
Exactly, therefore...

"Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind."

Take time to interpret that qoute... Seriously, think about it...
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Exactly, therefore...

"Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind."

Take time to interpret that qoute... Seriously, think about it...

Science tries to find out how things work, it doesn't need religion to be non-lame. It is interesting on its own merits. Religion on the otherhand is interesting, but only as much as the work of overly imaginitive people is interesting. I look at religion like "The Matrix". On its face it seems completely plausible, but the more you get into the logistics of something like that actually happening, the more absurd it gets. "The Matrix" had cool special effects though, religion does not, therefore I say religion is lame, and taking away something lame from science ,which is not lame, doesn't make science lame.


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Science tries to find out how things work, it doesn't need religion to be non-lame. It is interesting on its own merits. Religion on the otherhand is interesting, but only as much as the work of overly imaginitive people is interesting. I look at religion like "The Matrix". On its face it seems completely plausible, but the more you get into the logistics of something like that actually happening, the more absurd it gets. "The Matrix" had cool special effects though, religion does not, therefore I say religion is lame, and taking away something lame from science ,which is not lame, doesn't make science lame.


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Whatever... I do not feel like writing a freaking essay on that qoute.

So you think me and Rebal are just very Matrixy?
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Whatever... I do not feel like writing a freaking essay on that qoute.

So you think me and Rebal are just very Matrixy?
If you aren't willing to back up the things you say by explaining them more, you shouldn't say them.

No, you and Rebal are not Matrixy at all, you are like the people that think we are in the Matrix after seeing that movie.


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If you aren't willing to back up the things you say by explaining them more, you shouldn't say them.
I didnt know it was so hard to understand..

Next time I wont for sure though...

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No, you and Rebal are not Matrixy at all, you are like the people that think we are in the Matrix after seeing that movie.


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For me, I have not come in contact with religion to where religion makes me think there is a God.

I spoke to the machine directly... Not the movie...
Not the oracle lol.
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I didnt know it was so hard to understand..

Next time I wont for sure though...


For me, I have not come in contact with religion to where religion makes me think there is a God.

I spoke to the machine directly... Not the movie...
Not the oracle lol.
Yeah, but that has no significance to anyone but you, therefore you are still like the people that say the movie and now think they are in the Matrix.


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Whatever... I do not feel like writing a freaking essay on that qoute.

So you think me and Rebal are just very Matrixy?
Stop trying to associate yourself with Rebal. Rebal has stated many times that his purpose for believing in God is his personal revelation, which is the one thing that we can't take away from him. Rebal doesn't try to justify his beliefs with screwed up rationale and "evidence" from the Bible. Because I'm pretty certain that Rebal, and EVERYONE ELSE, knows that belief in God is faith alone. No great thinker has, no scientist has ever provided a real rationale/empirical evidence for God's existence, respectively. Either God talked to you or something, or you're just following the herd.
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Stop trying to associate yourself with Rebal. Rebal has stated many times that his purpose for believing in God is his personal revelation, which is the one thing that we can't take away from him. Rebal doesn't try to justify his beliefs with screwed up rationale and "evidence" from the Bible. Because I'm pretty certain that Rebal, and EVERYONE ELSE, knows that belief in God is faith alone. No great thinker has, no scientist has ever provided a real rationale/empirical evidence for God's existence, respectively. Either God talked to you or something, or you're just following the herd.
Actually, I think he's stated a few times that God, excuse me, Executive Assistant District Attorney Jack McCoy has spoken to him.


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Stop trying to associate yourself with Rebal. Rebal has stated many times that his purpose for believing in God is his personal revelation, which is the one thing that we can't take away from him. Rebal doesn't try to justify his beliefs with screwed up rationale and "evidence" from the Bible. Because I'm pretty certain that Rebal, and EVERYONE ELSE, knows that belief in God is faith alone. No great thinker has, no scientist has ever provided a real rationale/empirical evidence for God's existence, respectively. Either God talked to you or something, or you're just following the herd.
Please read the whole thread man.

I had personal revelations aswell...



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Please read the whole thread man.

I had personal revelations aswell...



Sorry about the above, my neice just wanted to push those icons on....
You know what, that's great.

If you would've taken your revelations and sat on them, then I wouldn't have really given a sh*t. BUT, you had to go off on all these other tangents that were completely dismissable.

Stick to what we CAN'T take away from you.
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