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Please read my thread on Einstein.... I do nto have a better way right now to explain what I mean.

It is a thought, Einstein just happened to think of it... Wow, you dont have to praise the damn guy, just cut him some slack and see what he is all about...
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Ok. Let me rephrase what actuall talking meant.

When I pray, and get no inner feeling that I am close to God, he is not answering me...
When I pray and get a feeling of closeness with God, he answers my prayer and boom I have truth in front of me.

Not based on a voice, rather a knowledge that a certain feeling or insight came into me and simply gave me an answer that otherwise would not have come out of my own random thought process...

It is no easy matter to explain, Rebel seems to explain this better than I, but for the most part I think i did aight lol.
How can you accept some sort of inner feeling as an answer? Feelings, or atleast the way they're physically manifested, are chemicals within the brain. They can be manipulated through concentration, and artificially induced.

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If god supposedly answers your prayers than I want to see you pray for a Ferrari Enzo and get it magically in a couple of days. If that happens ill believe.
G_d is not a geanie

I don't think you understood my rather convoluted paragraph back on page 8.
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Please read my thread on Einstein.... I do nto have a better way right now to explain what I mean.

It is a thought, Einstein just happened to think of it... Wow, you dont have to praise the damn guy, just cut him some slack and see what he is all about...
I did read your thread.

Einstein was hung up on God. He was using rationality to come to an IRRATIONAL conclusion, much like you did. There is no "science" involved in finding out whether or not God exists.
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I did read your thread.

Einstein was hung up on God. He was using rationality to come to an IRRATIONAL conclusion, much like you did. There is no "science" involved in finding out whether or not God exists.
I hate it when people take the smartest person they can think of, and then claim that just because that guy believes in god, we all should.
 
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I hate it when people take the smartest person they can think of, and then claim that just because that guy believes in god, we all should.
By some of the quotes I've seen, I thought he didn't believe in God.
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By some of the quotes I've seen, I thought he didn't believe in God.
He has said he doesn't believe in god, yes:

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"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly."
But at the same time, he said that in his own view (a pantheistic view, NOT a Judeo-Christian view), that he believes nature is so perfect that it deserves the same amount of respect as a god would:

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"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings."
Einstein's "belief" in Spinoza's God is one of his most widely quoted statements. But quoted out of context, like so many of these statements, it is misleading at best. It all started when Boston's Cardinal O'Connel attacked Einstein and the General Theory of Relativity and warned the youth that the theory "cloaked the ghastly apparition of atheism" and "befogged speculation, producing universal doubt about God and His creation"(Clark, 1971, 413-414). In short, people take what he said completely out of context. He was an atheist people, get over it.
 
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I did read your thread.

Einstein was hung up on God. He was using rationality to come to an IRRATIONAL conclusion, much like you did. There is no "science" involved in finding out whether or not God exists.
Religion drives science, science drives religion

It isnt that hard to comprehend...
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Religion drives science, science drives religion

It isnt that hard to comprehend...
It is hard to comprehend if it doesn't exist.....
 
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It is hard to comprehend if it doesn't exist.....
What doesnt exist, religion or science?

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What doesnt exist, religion or science?

Lmao...
The idea that religion drives science, and that science drives religion doesn't exist - that's what I meant. Religion is static, therefor it isn't 'driven' at all. If science really did drive religion, than there would have been massive changes in religious policies for the past several hundred years.
 
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