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Most people here Debate Christianity, well, instead I would like to debate Islam.

To start, lets have someone ask me a question that they think is flawed or unanswered in Islam, and I will respond.

It just so happens that the Koran has all the answers your looking for, and after all, algebra was created by Muslims in Spain for the purpose of proving the Koran correct, astrology and all other claims made by the Koran have been true thus far aswell.
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What makes Islam more valid that Christianity?
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Well I am going to assume that you are a man. How do you justify your treatment of Women?
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I'm assuming you're Muslim, correct? If so, could you explain more in-depth as to why algebra proves the Koran correct?
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What makes Islam more valid that Christianity?
The fact that you are asking the question.

Lemon, very simply the fact you ask the question means as of now you are more open to Islam than Christianity, though I believe you know the main differences between the two religions. Such as Jesus and his validation as son of God and as a saviour who sacraficed himself for our original sin.

Islam just simply had the FINAL book on God and the Torah, Bible, (Gospel as they call it in the Koran), and The Koran itself.
The Koran is just the most complete book (Guidance) on life, as most Muslims would argue.

This is controversial though and I would not validate that.
If you want to ask and Imam if Islam is better than Christainity he will most likely tell you no, that there are differences, and maybe he will go into great detail with you.

On a whole though it says in the Koran that is acceps the children of Isreal as the chosen people and that they went and messed themselves up and need to repent, so God sent down ANOTHER revelation (The Koran) and said; Here follow. or something like that lol.

Here is a qoute form the Koran Interpreted:

"And they say, 'None shall enter Paradise except that they be Jews or Christains.'" (The Koran Interpreted, Page 42, Volume 1, lines 105-110)

So I'd Say Islam (Submussion to God, or Peace) is very accepting of other religions. Culture is a different story though.
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There are two types of Muslims,Suni and a shia or something which type of muslim r u?
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Well I am going to assume that you are a man. How do you justify your treatment of Women?
The Koran (Islam) is the most fair religion to women. If you don't believe me then pick up the Koran and read it (Which I think you have). Since I dont speak arabic the version I am reading is called; (The Koran Interpreted, A Translation by A.J. Arberry)

Go to page 128 (Surahs XXI - CXIV, which is Volume 2) and read line 55-60.

"O Prophet, say to thy wives and daughters and the believing women, that they draw their veils close to them; so it is likelier they will be known, and not hurt. God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate."

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Now are you telling me that they (women) are being mistreated because they are to clothe themselves properly in order not to be raped or harrased by others, including horny men?

I mean, is it the dress code you have a problem with according to the Koran, or is it the CULTURE you have a problem with, because I too have a serious problem with the culture of Males with super large Ego's and self-idolizing themselves.

The way women are mistreated in the Koran is non-existent, women are treated extremely fair according to the Koran. Like I said, culture has a big impact on society.

Why do you think the Muslim women in America are treated better than in say Iraq, because America is way better than the backwards 3rd world countries.
In America you learn to adapt, and if not survival is hard.

IMO, American Muslims follow Islam WAY better than Middle-Eastern Muslims.
I mean, do you feel threatened in America when you walk by a Muslim? IF so thats immature.

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By the way, are you assuming I treat women that way?
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your treatment of Women.
Lol, I treat women better than the majority of people treat them. I do not use women just for sex like sluts, I dont hit or beat women, I care for them and provide, I am also romantic with them.

Lol, For the last time, Culture is the true root of this evil problem, and please dont bring the Taliban- uber extremist in this thread lol, they are more Atheist than Muslim.
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I'm assuming you're Muslim, correct? If so, could you explain more in-depth as to why algebra proves the Koran correct?
It proves science and the Koran co-exist in harmony and that the deeper into the Koran you get, the deeper into science, and vice-verca.
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There are two types of Muslims,Suni and a shia or something which type of muslim r u?
I dont do that bullsh.t, I follow Islam, which makes me Muslim.

Wikipedia:

"Shi'a Islam, also Shi'ite Islam, Shiite or Shi'ism (Arabic: شيعة‎ ​, translit: Shī‘ah) is the second largest denomination of the religion of Islam. Shi'a Muslims adhere to what they consider to be the teachings of the Islamic prophet Muhammad and the religious guidance of his family whom they refer to as the Ahlul Bayt. Thus, Shi'as consider the first three ruling Sunni caliphs a historic occurrence and not something attached to faith. The singular/adjective form is Shī’ī (شيعي.) and refers to a follower of the Household of Muhammad and of Ali ibn Abi Talib (Imam Ali) in particular.

Shi'a has at times been divided into many branches but today there are just four branches. The best known and the one with most adherents is Twelvers, the others being Ismaili, Alawi and Zaidiyyah."

"Sunni Muslims are the largest denomination of Islam. They are referred to as Ahl ul-Sunna (Arabic: أهل السنة), the folks of the tradition. The word Sunni comes from the word sunna (Arabic : سنة ), which means the tradition of the Prophet of Islam, Muhammad. Sunnis are also referred to as Ahl ul-Sunna wa-l-Jama'ah (Arabic: أهل السنة والجماعة) (people of tradition and congregation) which implies that the Sunnis are united.

Sunni (Arabic: سني ) means follower of the sunna of the Prophet, with some details."

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The fact that you are asking the question.

Lemon, very simply the fact you ask the question means as of now you are more open to Islam than Christianity
That is absolutely not what it means. I ask this question of every single religion.

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Islam just simply had the FINAL book on God and the Torah, Bible, (Gospel as they call it in the Koran), and The Koran itself.
The Koran is just the most complete book (Guidance) on life, as most Muslims would argue.

This is controversial though and I would not validate that.
If you want to ask and Imam if Islam is better than Christainity he will most likely tell you no, that there are differences, and maybe he will go into great detail with you.
I'm glad you said it so I didn't have to.

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On a whole though it says in the Koran that is acceps the children of Isreal as the chosen people and that they went and messed themselves up and need to repent, so God sent down ANOTHER revelation (The Koran) and said; Here follow. or something liek that lol.

Here is a qoute form the Koran Interpreted:

"And they say, 'None shall enter Paradise except that they be Jews or Christains.'" (The Koran Interpreted, Page 42, Volume 1, lines 105-110)

So I'd Say Islam (Submussion to God, or Peace) is very accepting of other religions. Culture is a different story though.
So, basically, you haven't answered my question in the slightest.
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