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Islam is not based on one thing, it is a life style and is based on so many other values. I Get your point about being good and not believing in God. I will ask an Imam for you what they interpret of it form the Koran and see what happens. Personally, I think that being good is a righteous thing to do and as long as you are doing good deeds, and everything, it is STILL only just part of it. You see, its like the butter (Doing good things) for the pancake (belief), without it just isnt as sweet, but you still need the the pancake as the core of it all. Quote:
Since CYA is self-beneficial, that means that God created us for our benefit, not his. So that means that in order to recieve what we want we must show we are really in it to get to heaven. We show we mean it by living a righteous life and so forth. Also we show we are sincere about what we want (To go to Heaven) by believing in something (God) that is as hard if not harder than believing in the Cookie Monster. This shows sincerity and shows we mean it. Otherwise we are not really caring to much about ourselves, and how me may or may not end up after death. - I hope that made sense.
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Nobody said you must join a religion and a way of life. Have your life and just add the belief of God into, as well as being righteous. I personally beleive that this might be a better way of CYA then joining a certain religion when IMO they all have the same essential fundamentals, so say one is right over the other and you didnt beleive in the other. Then you are screwed. I beleive that if I take the core out of them all and adopt the similar values they all ahev then I should be safe... Thats just me though, on to his question. -- Though he is Hindu and wants to convert. What would be better than stories of why people converted to Islam rather than the other two? Here: are some. http://www.islamfortoday.com/evans01.htm http://www.islamfortoday.com/keller04.htm http://www.islamfortoday.com/marwa.htm http://www.islamfortoday.com/flood.htm http://www.islamfortoday.com/lynette.htm http://www.islamfortoday.com/farrell.htm http://www.islamfortoday.com/ambassador02.htm http://www.islamfortoday.com/karla.htm --- There are SOOO many more stories like these. I was born to a Muslim Fatyher and a mother who converted, though she doesnt give me a real clear answer on why besides the fact that it is the most fair to women, it is rational, and reasons like that. So I never experienced conversion, rather I experienced intense questioning of Islam, and since I had always believed in God all the answers were their for me, so I stuck with Islam. Here are the rest of the stories: http://www.islamfortoday.com/converts.htm Read them if you like, maybe they will answer your quesitons better than I can.
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Is why did YOU choose Islam over the others? Because let's face it. The only...ONLY way you can justify this to me is "personal revelation". I got that from Rebal, and I accepted it, because it's his personal business. He didn't give me any crap about the structure of the Bible or religious history, he told me that he had a revealing experience. So I accept that.
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I am short on time, but I promise a detailed answer. For now, read other people testimonials, that I have posted.
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That all makes sense, the only part I have a problem with is your pancake/butter analogy as it seems really backwards to me. This is really just a personal philosophy, but I really don't think that your the pancake part should depend on how bad you want to get into heaven. Stick with me on this analogy, cause I may get it mixed up: Imagine you are a college football coach recruiting for your school. Now, you have 3 people to pick from. The guy that's a first team, All-American quarterback, the guy that was best on his team, although his team wasn't that great, and the guy who was just so so. Now, if the All-American doesn't show any interest one way or the other when it comes to desire to join your program, wouldn't you still offer him a scholarship to your school? He's still amazing at football, the fact that he doesn't show any interest in your school doesn't change that. Now, the second guy is probably worthy as well, but he has a whole lot of interest in your school. He would be just as good if not better to offer a scholarship, but by no means am I going to offer him one before the first guy. The third guy didn't cut it as a high school player, so he damn sure isn't ready to be a college player, although he wants to get in more than anybody. He would never even be considered. Getting back to the pancakes, and why I think that it should be the other way around, how can doing good things be such a small part of it? I think that behaving properly, acting like a decent human being should, in the long run, completely overshadow whether or not one believed a certain thing. And that pertains to any religion I think. The only reason I don't like devoting my time to a religion is because it takes away time from bettering myself and helping further society in the best way I know how. TMNT
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In my testimony of how I came to Islam, I will try and explain all I can in all sorts of detail of what my reasons are. I don't have time to type it out now, but I will soon.
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