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Originally Posted by iCeAt So you only look at the now, thats fine for you, but I prefer to look towards the future and what could be after death. |
Who said I was looking at only the now? I said that there is a way too much here on Earth to deal with without preoccupying myself with things having to do with other realms of existence. It's not only the now I am concerned with, it's the entire time I will be living that I am concerned with. This is a one time thing that I have the oppurtunity to experience. I don't want to waste time worrying about what will happen afterwards. That's like someone giving you a lottery ticket and saying you could win a million dollars in a month and then you only thinking about what you are going to buy with that money instead of living and experiencing that month of your life. What happens if you die in 29 days and all you've been thinking about was what you were gonna do the 30th day from now? You would've completely squandered those 29 days and I find that to be the greatest tragedy anyone could ever endure.
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Originally Posted by iCeAt For me, truth is more important than petty anamalistic desires, I will get to them, but they are not on the top of my list.
I am willing to die this second in order to see the truth, though I dont believe in suicide or asking someone to kill me. |
Seeing as it's a certainty that you are gonna die and see the truth anyway, don't you think it would be wise to just enjoy this limited time you have here?
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Originally Posted by iCeAt When I die, as stupid as this may sound, it will be the happiest time of my life... I see it like this; Finaly after all this time waiting for the truth it comes within minutes or hours, nonetheless I am about to get a dosage of the truth.
If I may die and turn to dust, then fine, I wont remember anything anyway, but if I am to die and there is another world that invloves God, then I am in luck for believing.
Also if I die and I am sent to another world such as a higher stage of human "evolution" then I would adapt and learn at that stage. |
More of this being preoccupied with the afterlife at the expense of the current life. Contemplating, wondering, and desiring to know the truth about life after death is normal and probably a good thing. I don't worry about it myself, but the problem I have when people do this is that most of the time they take an incredibly inordinate amount of time out of their daily lives to go wonder, contemplate, and desire to know the truth. You aren't going to find out until you are dead and it would be foolish to end your life right now just to find out, so why not stop worrying about it and live your life. You'll find out when you die.
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Originally Posted by iCeAt Pascals wager makes perfect sense to me, and finding the ultimate truth is something I'd die for. |
Pascal's wager makes people believe for all the wrong reasons, and people who believe solely because of his logic are doing so out of fear whether they admit it or not.
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Originally Posted by iCeAt On Earth, FOR ME, religion thus far gives me the most hope of something after and gives me a way of life on Earth, untill I die. It makes the most sense to me, and I just click with the fact that there could be a God.
Not only that, but I do not take my families "nightmarish" stories for granted, I have an uncle who was harrased by what Islam calls a Jinn...
I dont think that all these people are lying when they say they have been harrased or have seen things like this.
I have never experienced anything but everyone in my family, save my dad and me, has experienced and seen very weird un"provable" beings that co-exist with us.
Go watch a movie called the entity, its weird but a true story.
I mean, with all of these things and up to 3 people claiming they have at the same time together experienced a jinn or other life source, I am not going to deny it..
As I said, if you want to believe then good for you, if not, good for you aswell. |
I don't need religion to believe that something exists after death, especially not any of the religions that exist today. All of the ones I've ever seen place way too much importance on the simple act of believing. What does that have to do with anything? Believing or not believing in Santa Clause has no bearing on his existence and it's the same with anything else I've seen. Believing is one thing, to subscribe to a whole lifestyle based on what happens AFTER life is completly absurd to me. The ideas from the movie "Dogma" is the most sensical thing I've ever heard anyone on this planet say about religion. If you haven't seen it, check it out.
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