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Originally Posted by Darth Hulk Deciding whether or not God exists has nothing to do with sense. There are one of two possibilities, one being he doesn't exist, and the other being he does. Picking one or the other does not in any way involve rational thinking. It all comes down to faith and is the reason some people have such a problem with religion. Why would you spend so much of your life dealing with something that may or may not exist when there is so much that does exist that can provide the same sort of experience and enlightenment. Music, art, movies, books, and to a much lesser extent television all provide me with all of the entertainment and intellectual stimulation I need without turning to some fiction being masqueraded as a guide to living (I speak not just of your religion but of pretty much all of them). And if believing in a God is the ticket to heaven, then maybe I don't even want to go there.
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So you only look at the now, thats fine for you, but I prefer to look towards the future and what could be after death.
For me, truth is more important than petty anamalistic desires, I will get to them, but they are not on the top of my list.
I am willing to die this second in order to see the truth, though I dont believe in suicide or asking someone to kill me.
When I die, as stupid as this may sound, it will be the happiest time of my life... I see it like this; Finaly after all this time waiting for the truth it comes within minutes or hours, nonetheless I am about to get a dosage of the truth.
If I may die and turn to dust, then fine, I wont remember anything anyway, but if I am to die and there is another world that invloves God, then I am in luck for believing.
Also if I die and I am sent to another world such as a higher stage of human "evolution" then I would adapt and learn at that stage.
Pascals wager makes perfect sense to me, and finding the ultimate truth is something I'd die for.
On Earth, FOR ME, religion thus far gives me the most hope of something after and gives me a way of life on Earth, untill I die. It makes the most sense to me, and I just click with the fact that there could be a God.
Not only that, but I do not take my families "nightmarish" stories for granted, I have an uncle who was harrased by what Islam calls a Jinn...
I dont think that all these people are lying when they say they have been harrased or have seen things like this.
I have never experienced anything but everyone in my family, save my dad and me, has experienced and seen very weird un"provable" beings that co-exist with us.
Go watch a movie called the entity, its weird but a true story.
I mean, with all of these things and up to 3 people claiming they have at the same time together experienced a jinn or other life source, I am not going to deny it..
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(Wikipedia)
Jinn in Islam
Muslims believe that jinn are real beings. The jinn are said to be creatures with free will, made of smokeless fire by God (the literal translation being "subtle fire", i.e., a fire which does not give itself away through smoke), much in the same way humans were made of a metaphorical clay. In the Qur'an, jinn are frequently mentioned and Sura 72 of the Qur'an named Al-Jinn is entirely about them. Another Sura (Al- Naas) mentions the Jinn in the last verse. In fact, the Prophet Muhammad was said to have been sent as a prophet to both "humanity and the jinn."
The jinn have communities much like human societies: they eat, marry, die, etc. They are invisible to humans, but they can see humans. Sometimes they accidentally or deliberately come into view or into contact with humans.
Jinn are beings much like humans, possessing the ability to be good and bad. They have the power to transform into other animals and humans, and they are known to prefer the form of a snake. It is also known that they eat bones and their animals eat droppings, that is why it is forbidden to perform Istinja (washing) with those items. Jinns also have the power to possess humans, have much greater strength than them, and live much longer lives. In fact, according to some hadith, the great-grandson of Iblis, or the Devil (who was born before mankind), converted to Islam during the time of Muhammad, so he must have been thousands of years old. According to the majority of Islamic scholars, clear evidence exists in the Qur'an that the Devil was not an angel (as thought by Christians), but a jinn, citing the Quranic verse "And when We said to the angels:'Prostrate yourselves unto Adam.' So they prostrated themselves except Iblis (The Devil). He was one of the jinn..." Surat Al-Kahf, 18:50. According to Islam, angels are different physical beings, and unlike the fiery nature of jinn, they are beings of goodness and cannot choose to disobey God, nor do they possess the ability to do evil. Evil Ifrit in The Book of One Thousand and One Nights are called "the seed of Iblis".
In Islam-associated mythology, the jinn were said to be controllable by magically binding them to objects, as Suleiman (Solomon) most famously did; the Spirit of the Lamp in the story of Aladdin was such a jinni, bound to an oil lamp. Ways of summoning jinn were told in The Thousand and One Nights: by writing the name of God in Hebraic characters on a knife (whether the Hebrew name for God, Yaweh, or the Arabic Allah is used is not specified), and drawing a diagram (possibly a pentagram) and strange symbols and incantations around it.
It is said that one could kill a jinn with the Inwa, a manner of throwing the stone of a fruit so hard so it could, in fact, kill something. The jinn's power of possession was also addressed in the Nights. It is said that by taking seven hairs out of the tail of a cat that was all black except for a white spot on the end of its tail, and then burning the hairs in a small closed room with the possessed.filling their nose with the scent.this would release them from the spell of the jinn inside them.
In the Qur'an, Solomon (Arabic: Suleiman) had members of his army belonging to the race of jinn. Solomon had the ability to communicate with all creatures, which allowed him to communicate with the jinn as well.
Evil beings from among the jinn are roughly equivalent to the demons of Christian lore. In mythology, jinn have the ability to possess human beings, both in the sense that they persuade humans to perform actions, and like the Christian perception of demonic possession.
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As I said, if you want to believe then good for you, if not, good for you aswell.
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