Lol, Yes I believe God exists and therefore Islam validates istself to me as the Book with the most answers and the most correct scientific facts predicted and proven.

Its simple reasoning Cursed (religion is).
When no matter what happens in daily life, nobody can explain what happens after death, and PROVE it, there comes religion with its miracles and art that surpases art till this day.
Religion satisfies the mind and is able to help people become better and have hope for soemthing more.

Like a parent tells his child; " I know whats good for you, not you, I know, so do as I say and you will become better! "
Unless the parent is screwed up in the head, they usually know whats right for their child.

Same analogy for the theory of God.

If your telling me you are against hope than thats wrong IMO.

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Again...you've completely failed to validate Islam to ME, a person with open ears, no less. Saying "I believe in God, thus religion is real" is the stupidest thing you could've said to me. Also...ding dong, moral relativism.

I live by hope. I despise faith.

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What do you hope for?

I know you have open ears lemon, thats why you debate, but you ask and rationalize, which is good, but makes it hard to believe in anything, not just about religion but anything.

So please, start of by telling me you have hope in Darwinsm and its accuracy.
(Which I doubt you do)
Darwinsim is no more than a mere underdeveloped theory with plenty of flaws.

Religion started based on mircales and "magic" you could say. Religion has books that defy the capability of man, literally.

What I did was simple, I rationalized my rationalization.

I said to myself. If I never believe in anything, then my life is a continual search for something I will never find (In this life), sooner or later i need to accept something (whether it be religion or darwinism) and just go with so I can live my life without worry.
So I picked what makes the most sense to me. Islam.

Though if you like to worry and have anxiety that is your decision.

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If you could give evidence, or provide some examples of where this is proved, that would be great.

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You're not getting it.

Why should I believe something that has no reason behind it? That is why I asked my first question...what validates Islam over Christianity or any other religion? You have given me absolutely nothing to work with. Therefore, I should just go believe in Christianity...or can you give me a reason not to?

...Why would I "hope" for something that already happened? If creationism had any credible science behind it, maybe I'd actually be on the fence with that debate. But as it stands, evolution and the big bang theory have actually tried to explain our origins (no, NOT how life "began"), and creationism just lives off of the holes that science hasn't been able to explain yet. But why would I worry about it? It has absolutely no bearing on me whatsoever. It's an area that only people who desire knowledge go to...and that is me.

So what you're telling me is, I can't live a good life without religion. News flash, buddy. I'm living it, and much more than any "faithful" person is even allowed to. Also, picking a God because of self-interest probably won't sit too well with said God.

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I didnt feel like writing a superlong paragragh again, so here is a Ctrl-V from (http://forum.physorg.com/Relativity-in-Quran-_2582.html)

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If this is the 18th century, I will tell you that Quran WILL predict a lot of science that is in it.

In other words, what I mean is that what modern science has proven in the last century or so was already found in the Quran that is the only book in mankind's history with zero change. Before I go on, I would like to state that the Quran is said to be the book for all of mankind. Therefore, it should be compatible with how previous generations lived, and also with today's technological and science-led world.

Quran is not a book of science, but about SIGNS, but over 1000 verses (signs) speak about science.



To start off, with very very basic knowledge, science has theorized that the universe came into existence with the phenomenon called the Big Bang. Alhamdulillah, this was given in a nutshell in the glorious Quran in Surah Anbiya, Chp 21, verse 30: "Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder?"

2) Again in Chp 21, verse 33: "It is Allah who has created the night and the day, the Sun and the Moon, each one travelling with its own motion." Alhamdulillah, we know now that it takes the sun approx. 25 days to complete its rotation.

3) Hubble said that universe is expanding, in Holy Quran, chp 51, verse 47: "AND IT IS We who have built the universe with power; and, verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it". The Arabic word musi'una is called "vastness of space" >> "expanding"

4) The Holy Quran has also described the water cycle in great detail: Chp 86, Verse 11, and in (Chp:Ver): 24:43, 30:48, 39:21, 23:18, 30:24, 15:22, 7:57, 13:17, 25:49 and many others.

5) in field of Geology, we know that deeper layers of Earth are hot and cannot sustain life, and that the upper-most layer (the crust) could shake. Quran says in CHp 78, verse 6-7: "We have made the Earth as an expanse; and the mountains as pegs." Today we have come to know, that moutains has got deep roots, and the part on top that we see is very small (much like a glacier) and much of it is within the Earth...this explanation is exactly like how pegs (or stakes) are, which are driven to the Earth as markings or for support are only a small portion of them are above the ground.

Quran further says in chp 88, verse 19 and in chp 79, verse 32: "And we have made mountain standing firm on the Earth"...today after modern geology has advanced, by the theory of plate tectonics, the geologists today do say that mountains give stability. Not all geologists, but most of them.

In the Quran, it already states, that mountains give stability. Nowhere does is it state that they prevent earthquakes, because that is simply not true.

6) Chp 55, verse 19-20: He has given freedom to the two great bodies of water, so that they might meet:; between them is a barrier which they may not transgress. What does the Quran mean? We know there is sweet water and salt water, but what is it about not mixing? The scienitific point to note here is that when one types of water goes into the other, it loses it constituents and gets homogenized before it flows. So there is a slanting area, which Quran refers to it by the unseen barrier. People back in that time did not about sweet and salt water, but no one knew that there is an unseen barrier. It is proven recently, which is another reason that Quran is in fact the book of Almighty Allah.


I could write an essay on scientific facts in Quran that are now proven recently.

As for your question, there are many things in Quran that we do not know of. One may say they are neither true nor false because we do not know of them. For example, if you asked me how a child looks like inside woman's womb about four decades ago, I would not be able to answer it. In the Quran it says that when man is born inside woman's womb, it looks like a leech. No one could know that until now with advanced technology, which is confirmed by Professor Keith L. Moore from University of Toronto that a human in fact looks like a leech when inside woman's womb.



Einstein said himself, "Science without religion is lame, and religion without science is blind."


I would like to end with two verses from the Quran, chp 2, verse 79: "Woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say this is from Allah, to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for what they earn."

Chp 17, verse 81: And say: "Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish."

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Enough?

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I've read this same website a hundred-thousand times, because it's been shown to me a hundred-thousand times...I too don't feel like typing a long-ass post, so all I have to say is "VAAAAAAAAGUE". And also, a lot of those things are COMPLETELY self-evident...the water cycle, for example. Any idiot could've figured that out. People weren't exactly stupid back in those days.

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Cursed, you really really want to be convinced and debated into believing religion, it is within you if you find it credible, to me it doesnt sound like you fully understand religion, Islam persay, Im not here to force you, but rather reason with you. IF you seek knowledge, read the Koran, and tell me what you dont like in it.

I mean, Cursed, what do you want?

To Know the answers is impossible, it will never happen in this lifetime of yours buddy, or anyone elses for that matter.

I did not say that if your not faithful you wont live a good life, you are being single-minded when you wrote that and you are not reading.

I said:
"If I never believe in anything, then my life is a continual search for something I will never find (In this life), sooner or later i need to accept something (whether it be religion or darwinism) and just go with so I can live my life without worry.
So I picked what makes the most sense to me. Islam.

Though if you like to worry and have anxiety that is your decision."

Read that statement carefully.
I said, ultimately, you will always debate and not know the answer, nobody will until we die, so FOR ME, (Pay attention to caps) I choose religion to answer my questions, and I am still skeptical, though the more into it I go the more I like it and find it easier to accept.

Then at the bottom I said:
It is YOUR (pay attention to caps) Decision to believe in somehting or not to.

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Im sorry if you think I was calling you a wreck, I wasnt, I used the wrong word if thats the meaning you got.

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Ok.

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I don't like being condescended to. Please do not attempt to debate with me until you stop spewing spiritual drivel and start dealing in logic.

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