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you cant come and preach and see people as small minded because they think a specific relgion is bad. people dont care if the book says this that and the other, people's views are reflected on the followers of that relgion, regardless of whether a book says something is right or wrong.
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If you knew what I wished to do, you wouldn't let me.
I do it to you first.

So therefore, come and try, f..khead.
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I do it to you first.

So therefore, come and try, F**Khead.
Did God tell you to say that?
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A few questions. I'm sorry if they have been answered already, I just don't feel like searching all the pages.

-Why does the islam religion treat women so bad, and do you agree with that at all?

-Why did you choose to be in a religion that is discriminated against on several occasions?

- Culture treats women badly, not Islam.

- I chose Islam because of its way of life, and because it gives me mental satisfaction over the other religions.

Such as:
1.) I hate the idea of confessing to a preist, he is a man like me.
In Islam, when you feel you have sinned and want to confess for forgiveness just tell God you are repenting and you are sincere and you wont do it again.

2.) I am not forced to go to a church or be condemned, I can pray at home or anywhere for that matter. Pray is between you and God, it is direct. So we pray 5 times a day, so what? the whole purpose of our being here on Earth is a test, and quite frankly I am not going to forget that. So praying 5 times a day keeps you reminded.

3.) The trinity does not make sense to me. If God can be born, then he is not almighty and omnipotent. There must be another being that is. In Islam it says that God "confirmed" within Mary the holy spirit and there came Jesus. Not only that, why would God die for us? Our being here on Earth is a test. Muslims do not believe in Original Sin. We are born pure.

4.) Islam is amazingly detailed and has answers to every quesiton you have.
I am not a scholar in Islam, but I am learning, so if you ask me a questiona nd I cannot answer it sometimes, that means I have not studied it yet. Peopel spend their whole lives studying it.

5.) Islam is the most fair religion to women, as most female converts would say...

6.) Islam very simply means submission to our creator, God, Allah, whatever you want to call the creator. Peace is also another realm of Islam, that sadly, most arabs cannot do, they act on emotion more than anything else.

7.) Islam says that Judaism and Christianity are welcome to be with them so long as they submit to God, whatever you take that to mean, take it.

8.) The Islamic prayer is all about focusing everything you got on God. Like meditation is focusing all you got on clearing your mind or on a certain object or meaning.

9.) Ramadan teaches us to control our-selves and learn self-discipline. Which I really like, since most arabs during Ramadan act how they should and control their stupid emotions.

10.) The Qu'ran was sent down to Muhamamd threw an angel in a cave.
If you read this it will give you his biography. http://www.islamicity.com/education/...on/ihame/1.asp
The Qu'ran in of itself is very amazing, and I do not believe man could be that thoural about life and the past, present, and future.

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People at my school like to make fun of Muslims, Islams, and all those religious groups. I don't participate because I choose not to disrespect someone for what they believe in or what religion group they are a part of. If I have any other questions, I'll post in this thread later on. I always wanted to learn more about Islam from someone that has a first-hand experience or is part of that group.
Making fun of something you know nothing about is immature IMO.

thanks for being smart and willing to be open.
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If I am attacked, I will attack back.

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More or less except for the whole trinity thing.

He won't answer your questions, look at every question Darth Hulk, Cursed Lemon, and Colostomizer have asked him. He's not actually answering their questions. He's avoiding them by responding with something that they didn't ask.


In certain areas, yes. Overall, no.
Overall yes, look in the Middle East, and in the 3rd World Countries around the world. Who is responsible for most of the discrimination?? I hate to say it but its mostly Muslims. Basically Islam, like I said, is basically a copy of what Christianity says about the World and things like that.
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you cant come and preach and see people as small minded because they think a specific relgion is bad. people dont care if the book says this that and the other, people's views are reflected on the followers of that relgion, regardless of whether a book says something is right or wrong.
I know, and sadly, that is being narrowminded.

I studied Christianity and Judaism and Buddhism and Islam for myself.

I did not reflect it based on the people. People are emotional and most of the time wither take things to literally or dont take them at all.

Its complicated.
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Overall yes, look in the Middle East, and in the 3rd World Countries around the world. Who is responsible for most of the discrimination?? I hate to say it but its mostly Muslims. Basically Islam, like I said, is basically a copy of what Christianity says about the World and things like that.
Have you read the Qu'ran?
If not, do not tell me about Islam.
Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are suppose to be one. God, is the same God for all. The ultimate being who is Independent of all things. Unless you are worshipping the sun God, then you are worshipping the creator, who is the independent being.

IMO God would not try to seperate people into different religions... CULTURE, EGO, EMOTION, seperated the religions. Not only that, but Kings, and Empires IMO have made each religion have its own corruption, therefore I question them all, and find what makes the most sense for me to believe in.

- I agree with you that 3RD WORLD ARABS (hence the caps) are emotional and iliterate. They follow what they are forced to follow without quesiton, therefore a wrong message to them is the ultimate truth.

Islam is your very next door neighbor, hopefully he/she can shed some light unto you that Islam is not the culprit. Poverty, culture, and the like are the culprit.

You obviously are watching to much Fox news, please, go to a mosque and talk to an Imam (A scholar in islam). Ask him your quesitons. He will be glad to help you out and show you what Islam is really like. I am over the internet and my words are not as strong as demonstration.
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Just for your information, Christians are more discriminated aganist world wide then Islam.
Please tell me how.
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Your still not getting what I am saying. Islam is bascially a copy of Christianity in most of its ideas of how the world was made and things like that.
How was the world made. Explain.


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The differences are that your God tells you to go out and kill those who dont believe in Islam, the God of Christianity does not tell you to do that.
Yes, your kings during the crusades told you.

The part in the Qu'ran that says that we kill unbelievers is not the whole part.

If we are being oppressed and not able to follow our religion, then we should kill for the right to. Islam was never never spread by the sword, rather, it was kept from being destroyed by the Idol worshipers through the sword. The Prophet had to go through rough times to keep the religion alive. Read the history of Islam.

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Muslims believe that we worship the same God, but we dont.
Explain to me the God you worship.
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