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Since when was nature perfect?
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Since when was nature perfect?
Since it produced a system, minus us, which is more or less self sustaining for billions of years. Now, I'm sure we could upset the equation

We can always debate on how the system arose, and definitions of perfection... But yeah.
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We have a perfect system in the world. Nature.

Duh.
Define "perfect".

"Working" does not mean "perfect".
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We have a perfect system in the world. Nature.

Duh.
And what does that mean?
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So long as the system teaches us, and we not it, it is perfect.

I have no time to elaborate now, but if need be I will.
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I get the feeling that it's not going to matter, but go ahead whenever it's convenient.
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So long as the system teaches us, and we not it, it is perfect.

I have no time to elaborate now, but if need be I will.

Learning from and being taught by are different things. We learn from nature by observing things in nature, but nature doesn't teach us anything, no more than a smelly, homeless guy "teaches" people how to smell bad.


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What do you believe caused Biology, chemistry, genetics, geology and all the others to work together FLAWLESSLY.

Evolution, hard to believe. Harder than God IMO.
Dude.

I don't know how old you are, or how much education you have had. But. . . evolution is based on Biology, chemistry, genetics, geology and a whole bunch of other fields of science. If it is wrong, then they are wrong.

It is a mountain of evidence. Not a single sentence. And you are not familliar with it at all.

This isn't like religion. It isn't just one book. It is thousands and thousands of books of evidence, not proverbs.
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Learning from and being taught by are different things. We learn from nature by observing things in nature, but nature doesn't teach us anything, no more than a smelly, homeless guy "teaches" people how to smell bad.


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Dude.

I don't know how old you are, or how much education you have had. But. . . evolution is based on Biology, chemistry, genetics, geology and a whole bunch of other fields of science. If it is wrong, then they are wrong.

It is a mountain of evidence. Not a single sentence. And you are not familliar with it at all.

This isn't like religion. It isn't just one book. It is thousands and thousands of books of evidence, not proverbs.
Would wikipedia do it some Justice?
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