Yes this is NoKTurNaL....i know i havent been on this site forever, and thats fine. But its summer, and its also 3 AM...im really bored, and decided to brush up on my Relgious knowledge...finding DSB55...my biggest challenge yet..psh
dont expect me on here anymore, i might occasionally drop by and make a thread or somethin, but yea. And if your on my XBL names, either NoKTurNaL II or ShatterStudios...just take me off, no more xbox, and no more h2...been off for over a month now. So sit back, and enjoy some of your classic nok...well, not classic enough, but sort of...
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Originally Posted by DSB55 You call me ignorant Mobb but i think your own ignorance blinds you, you tell me i can't see right in-front of me but i see a book that is written from god himself and the 3 trinitys. you tell me i can not see, you canno't see, you are blinded by the world who is telling you, you can do what you want to do know and never be affected in the after life, but tell me Mobb, as an atheist what do you do in the after-life, are you reborn, wait you don't have a source of information telling you that, Isn't it scary knowing that if you die right there typing, that you have a chance to go to hell, because if you don't know. You can't prove my religion wrong, because this is a book to prove it. Tell me what you are going to do after you life, tell me what will you become of you. If you can give me a detailed answer. Ill be an atheist. |
A. God didnt write the bible...his 12 disciples did...glad to see your a good christian fella
B. As an Atheist, one may not believe in an after life or being reborn...so by you asking mobb that...has no validity in your arguement.
C. You cant prove ideas and stories that were written and thought thousands of years wrong...likewise, you cant disprove hard facts supporting evolution
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Originally Posted by DSB55 To all you who say if I say any of this beyond this thread, I am 6 3 185 varsity starter on the football team as a sophmore, if you think i am scared of any people on this boards, you are sadly sadly mistaken. Ill give you my address if you want to come challenge me face to face. |
A. "Im a christian."
Woah, wait a tick "come challenge me face to face." Here, i have an idea... "WWJD" ..... yea, im sure he would challenge me head to head because i may not believe in him.
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Originally Posted by DSB55 You rot in the ground what happens, to your mind, your life, all of it disappears, where does this life even come from, what the creates the mind of a person to live 75 years and die, tell me how can you say the mind of a human being can just be recycled like a plastic bottle, where does the greatest thing on the human earth come from, and how can it be created. Do not tell me we just rot, because if we just rot. |
A. how was god created?
B. ever heard of "string theory" or "evolution" for how the world was created...god and the bible isnt the only answer
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Originally Posted by DSB55 Digital d.ck, this is a debate to your post. You say can write a book, but can you have any evidence. I doubt you know this but the Baths of Babledah are written in the Bible, in the Bible there is 5 baths, for years historian would point out this flaw in the bible because historians had only found 3 baths, but after digging 100 feet deeper they found 2 more. That is only one incident. Atheism is like christianty in one way. Only one though, they both have faith, Atheists have faith that there is no God that can hurt them in the after-life, Christians have faith there is. So if you wrote a book, you would be riding on faith, and no 1 OZ. of proof of evidence |
im going to write a book now, and when i write it, im going to be very vague and general in my stories. then ill make sure my anscestors pass it on until the year 4000 BC. Then when they read my stories, and hear all my ideas, then they find some evidence that is closely related, i will be a new god.
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Originally Posted by DSB55 Yes and to whoever said why does god let us murder ect... because God took the biggest risk of all when he created humans, free will, he didn't force us to live all the same, eat all the same food, he let us choose, between eternal life with him or hell with satan. Did he force this world apon us no, Eve ate the fruit of the forbidden tree, Earth used to be bliss, no war, no starvation, no violence, but God gave us a mind, a way to live how we wanted, and we choose to have sin in our lifes, not God. |
god gave us a path, god new what we would be doing in our path in life...therefore he forsaw Eve sinning... God would not give us free will if he didnt expect us to choose an evil path opposed to his own...therefore if there is a god, either A. the bible is lying or B. he contradicts himself
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Originally Posted by DSB55 Exodus are you insane, you say you would want to party in Hell with paris hilton. Hell is not fun, if you belief in hell, hell is the worst thing imaginable. Hell is the fire lake, you knaw your teeth and sit in darkness while you burn alive, but you cannot die, you just burn and burn and burn in complete darkness, Exodus hell is not a party, it is the worst thing known to man |
if u dont believe in god and the heavans, then u dont believe in hell...hell would be what u percieve of it, and if u didnt have a perception of it, u wouldnt encounter it...thats like a buddhist saying that anyone non budhist will go to the buddhist version of hell if they dont believe in the buddha
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Originally Posted by DSB55 Actually this won't be easy, the christian religion is the most hated religion, do you know why, because it is the only religion that says you will have to pay for what you do on Earth in an after life, in islam if you are bad you are a Ant not a Cow, The bible does have fact in it but you didnt read my previous post about the pools. |
i can sin my whole life, then on my death bed, commit myself to christ, truely believe in god and commit myself to christ...and like it says in the Bible..i will go to Heavan. How can that be? How can someone be a mass murder or a child rapist, then pledge their life to God...and actually go to heavan? Christianity? Are u kidding me?
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Originally Posted by DSB55 You people tell me when you are dead you are dead, how is that different from believing in a God. I have faith that i will go on to an afterlife, you belief you will just die. But if you belief in my religion if you belief there is a God then you will not burn in hell, but if you have faith that you will just DIE, and you are wrong, what happens, you go to hell and burn, Think about this, this is your life, why not take the good gamble, why take a risk to just believe you are just going to Die, why not try to belief in something that even if the christian religion is false, you still played you cards right and all you do is die, instead if you don't believe in the christian belief and its true, you burn in hell forever. Why take the risk, why i have 25 kids from my town take the risk over a 7 month period driving drunk and 25 out of those 25 kids are dead, why take risks that you don't need to take. WHY RISK YOUR LIFE |
i know hardcore religious people...they're lives are lived conservatively everyday. "live life to its fullest" Does that mean by praying and going to church non stop and dont have the fun you should be having?...thats why i dont want to take the risk in being a christian and going to hell...i want to party, i want to have premaritial sex..i want to steal and obey my parents...
In conclusion... I am still indifferent about God, Jesus, the Bible, Atheism, etc. My grandpa is a Pastor, my best friend is agnostic. I know the bible, i know evolution, i know both sides. I am still finding myself in this world between religion, politics, and everything else.
As for the bible, my current stance on it is this:
It was contrived as a book...soully a book to explain coincidences that happen. Moses parting the red sea, or Jesus giving a blind man their vision back. You must remember, this was back in 0 BC. 2000 years ago. Look at how far we've came in just the past 100 years. People back then were, suffice to say, stupid. Any little thing that happened, was the work of god. Therefore it was written down and documented. Nowadays, if we feel wind, or see something bizzare happen, its "irony" not God.
The Bible is no more than a story. I personally believe that it was made to keep people true to themselves...not god. If one follows the Bible...then they will lead a good life. Whether or not you go to a heavan, or rott in the ground. You will know that u have lived a good life because you followed the bible. Sure, its ingenius. Create a book, make it legendary...then brainwash billions of people...something that can never be undone.
And to those of you who are christian, i respect you. You truely do have bigger balls than me trusting in something you have never seen. You trust in it, and i respect you for that.
Thanks for reading, and dont bother trying to get any replies out of me on here. So if u wanna flame, thats fine, i wont be replying to you.
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