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Originally Posted by concon11 B. As an Atheist, one may not believe in an after life or being reborn...so by you asking mobb that...has no validity in your arguement.
C. You cant prove ideas and stories that were written and thought thousands of years wrong...likewise, you cant disprove hard facts supporting evolution |
It will hard to play this role here seeing how I don't believe in God, so:
B) Not all Atheists will have the same views on death after life. He may have been asking a rhetorical question, or he may have been trying to see Mobb's point of view.
c) Were the stories of the Bible fact?
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Originally Posted by concon11 A. "Im a christian." Woah, wait a tick "come challenge me face to face." Here, i have an idea... "WWJD" ..... yea, im sure he would challenge me head to head because i may not believe in him. |
You took his quote out of context...
There was no direct harrasment or intention to harm anyone. He was standing his ground after being harrassed himself.
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Originally Posted by concon11 A. how was god created? |
A) God was always existant; outside the boundaries out the universe.
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Originally Posted by concon11 im going to write a book now, and when i write it, im going to be very vague and general in my stories. then ill make sure my anscestors pass it on until the year 4000 BC. Then when they read my stories, and hear all my ideas, then they find some evidence that is closely related, i will be a new god. |
One does not obtain omnipotence from writing a book. I would also except an Atheist (like yourself) to hold doubt in the stories of the Bible. I don't think it was God's intention to have humans write these stories if you were going to have lack of faith in him from them.
Maybe you wish to become a God of vanity though?
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Originally Posted by concon11 god gave us a path, god new what we would be doing in our path in life...therefore he forsaw Eve sinning... God would not give us free will if he didnt expect us to choose an evil path opposed to his own...therefore if there is a god, either A. the bible is lying or B. he contradicts himself |
We hold our own destiny in our own hands. God does not coerce anyone.
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Originally Posted by concon11 if u dont believe in god and the heavans, then u dont believe in hell...hell would be what u percieve of it, and if u didnt have a perception of it, u wouldnt encounter it...thats like a buddhist saying that anyone non budhist will go to the buddhist version of hell if they dont believe in the buddha |
He does believe in Hell. Why else do you think he would be describing how badly it would be?
He only said "if you believe in Hell" because he was asking this to another Atheist.
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Originally Posted by concon11 i can sin my whole life, then on my death bed, commit myself to christ, truely believe in god and commit myself to christ...and like it says in the Bible..i will go to Heavan. How can that be? How can someone be a mass murder or a child rapist, then pledge their life to God...and actually go to heavan? Christianity? Are u kidding me? |
Are you sure you know how God works? He is going to know your every action you take in life. I don't think you will be accepted into Heaven if he knew your only reason you believed in his existence was a cop-out.
God can tell who is a true believer.
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Originally Posted by concon11 i know hardcore religious people...they're lives are lived conservatively everyday. "live life to its fullest" Does that mean by praying and going to church non stop and dont have the fun you should be having?...thats why i dont want to take the risk in being a christian and going to hell...i want to party, i want to have premaritial sex..i want to steal and obey my parents... |
Have you ever lived in their lifestyle or just heard stories about it? Some religious people live the happies lives. Take the Amish for instance.
It's not like you're missing anything on 1 Sunday out of a week anyways. You have 6 other days to sin.
Wow, he is banned? Well that was a waste of my time, ha ha.
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