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Do you have a reason for believing that someone made this planet all by his lonesome besides the fact that somebody told you so or you read it in a book? Not only that, but do they have any other reasons besides reading it in a book that they believe someone all by himself created humans? At least the people claiming things like evolution have some sort of observable basis. The bible is nothing more to me than a book with stories in it. Some of them may be true, some of them are probably false, but it holds no more clout than any other book of religious lore does. Except for the fact that a ton of people believe in it that is, which doesn't make it true.



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No I believe it because I have felt god in my heart, I go to church and am very religious, some people here amaze me. Also their is scientific proof that parts of the bible are true.
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No I believe it because I have felt god in my heart, I go to church and am very religious, some people here amaze me. Also their is scientific proof that parts of the bible are true.
So you use scientific proof to support your bible, but you disagree with scientific proof of evolution?

sounds contradictory to me
 
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No I believe it because I have felt god in my heart, I go to church and am very religious, some people here amaze me. Also their is scientific proof that parts of the bible are true.
Ok, that's a decent explanation for why you believe what you believe. I'll tell you what I think about believing though, and since I can't explain it any better, I'll give you a quote:

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I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier. Life should malleable and progressive; working from idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit growth; new ideas can't generate. Life becomes stagnant.
Ever since I heard Chris Rock's character Rufus say that in Dogma, my opinion on religion changed for the better. I have had several ideas about where the world came from and how we came about and so on. Recently I've been watching "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" and in it a completely resonable, although entirely improbable, explanation is given on the origin of the earth. I'll leave it to you to go see the movie because the specifics aren't important. If I was a super devoted Christian, I might find the very idea presented offensive which is what happens to a lot of movies, books, TV shows etc, when they present ideology or viewpoints that deviate from a popular religion.

It sickens me when I see some overzealous nut on TV calling for the banning of a movie or book because it's "evil" or doesn't conform to his or her religion. If someone came up to me and tried to tell me not to see a movie based on religious reasons I'd be hard pressed to not punch them in the face because they are lost to me in terms of being able to understand why I don't care about their beliefs and why they don't factor into my decision making. But I'll stop now cause I'm starting to ramble.




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So you use scientific proof to support your bible, but you disagree with scientific proof of evolution?

sounds contradictory to me
Okay, explain how the big bang is possible, explain that to me please. And Hulk, I agree their are some crazy christian supporters, but everywhere in life their is always going to be people who feel they are doing whats right. Just remember that not all christians are like that.
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Okay, explain how the big bang is possible, explain that to me please. And Hulk, I agree their are some crazy christian supporters, but everywhere in life their is always going to be people who feel they are doing whats right. Just remember that not all christians are like that.

I'm well aware not all Christians are like that, I didn't even have them in mind when I said that. The religion that comes to mind most often when I think about protesting is Catholicism, especially with Dogma, they really got their panties in a bunch on that one. But I leave you until tomorrow, especially since you haven't said anything about my views on believing. I don't expect you to change anything, I'd just like to hear what you think.



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Jimmy. The problem isn't with the Christians. The problem is with arrogant people such as yourself.
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Alright, then explain to me how the world got here? Im not forcing my beliefs just explain it? I personally think its BULLsh.t that a big bang, could make emotions, feelings, and everything else god created. Whats your opinion on that?
You know, many religions recognize that the Big Bang could have been how the universe started.

I believe it's BS that anyone can believe that God came from nothing.
 
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Okay, explain how the big bang is possible, explain that to me please. And Hulk, I agree their are some crazy christian supporters, but everywhere in life their is always going to be people who feel they are doing whats right. Just remember that not all christians are like that.
ok
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_big_bang


please explain to me how creationism is even possible?


Once again you still didnt answer my question
So you use scientific proof to support your bible, but you disagree with scientific proof of evolution?


If you believe in god so much, stab yourself with a knife. And then pray that you dont die
 
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ok
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_big_bang


please explain to me how creationism is even possible?


Once again you still didnt answer my question
So you use scientific proof to support your bible, but you disagree with scientific proof of evolution?


If you believe in god so much, stab yourself with a knife. And then pray that you dont die

Why why why why does the argument always come down to "walk in front of a car and see if God saves you" or "stab yourself and see if God saves you." Why do you use that stupid example? I could stab myself and then pray that George Bush would save me and even though he won't that doesn't mean he doesn't exist. God is not there to play games of proof with people. You are just supposed to have faith and if you don't believe that's cool. Just stop using that example.
 
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