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How can someone offend themself without anyone sparking the offensiveness?

Just wondering. I don't understand how I have full responsibility of being offended.

Does that mean if I say "fag", the gay person I'm around is offending themselves by choosing to be offended by it? Or if I say "n.gger", a black person is offended not because of me, but because they chose to be offended?
Does your mind not have a conception of what those words mean before spoken. Most people only define those terms as racial slurs. And when reading or hearing you will percieve these words as racial slurs, whether the are or not makes only a little difference. You can also choose to ignore the racial slurs or get offended. Choices YOU are making.

I also ask if nature can be offensive?
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Does your mind not have a conception of what those words mean before spoken. Most people only define those terms as racial slurs. And when reading or hearing you will percieve these words as racial slurs, whether the are or not makes only a little difference. You can also choose to ignore the racial slurs or get offended. Choices YOU are making.

I also ask if nature can be offensive?
*sigh* -.-

Let's try to solve this. Let's ATTEMPT it. Let's not bring irrelevent quotes and philosophy into this. Let's talk about the problem.

PEOPLE ARE OFFENDED BY WHAT YOUR SAYING. THEY PERCIEVE THAT YOU ARE GENERALIZING. WHY? BECAUSE YOU'VE GIVEN US NO REASON TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE. JUST SAY THAT THOSE 10 THINGS ARE NOT CHARACTERISTICS OF ALL CHRISTIANS SO WE CAN END THIS.

Arguing with you reminds me of the old Revelation. Very frustrating. You just don't seem to get what people are saying.
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There is nothing to solve. Religion is useless.
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There is nothing to solve. Religion is useless.
'Religion is useless' applies to what we're arguing about how?
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Arguing with you reminds me of the old Revelation. Very frustrating. You just don't seem to get what people are saying.
I feel the exact same way.

Thanks for making the attempts with me Sparky, but I don't think it's going to work out. I'm going to leave him in his "use philosophie and big words so I sound smart" mode and try to forget this thread ever existed.
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*sigh* -.-

Let's try to solve this. Let's ATTEMPT it. Let's not bring irrelevent quotes and philosophy into this. Let's talk about the problem.

PEOPLE ARE OFFENDED BY WHAT YOUR SAYING. THEY PERCIEVE THAT YOU ARE GENERALIZING. WHY? BECAUSE YOU'VE GIVEN US NO REASON TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE. JUST SAY THAT THOSE 10 THINGS ARE NOT CHARACTERISTICS OF ALL CHRISTIANS SO WE CAN END THIS.

Arguing with you reminds me of the old Revelation. Very frustrating. You just don't seem to get what people are saying.

Wow, I've already told you about 3 times, but that's ok I enjoy beating the dead horse. Still you are not getting it, and I've come to the conclusion that you never will, but I'll try one last time, and if this doesn't work, you can have your last post and I'll be done with it.
My only suggestion to you in regards is just take a break and think before you make your generic "problem solving posts." . I'm not going to compromise the truths I believe in just to appease a few people. And yes I've never said the 10 did refer to all Christians nor did I say they didn't. THIS IS THE REASON WHY YOU(or any christian complaining in this thread) ARE OFFENDING YOURSELF because you are interpreting my post in a negative light, you are only seeing one angle and becoming myopic in your view, when in fact a wholly opposite interpretation is equally plausible. You seem to be upset because I'm letting people get upset over something they've percieved for themselves, and for that I make no apologies.


Those quotes are not irrelevent at all, you just seem to be blind to the connection. Once again leading us to question our perceptions.
Also, you said don't bring philosophy into this WHEN RELIGION IS PHILOSOPHY.

After reading this post, if your still not comprehending these ideas, then go right ahead and make a post saying those 10 do not apply to all Christians, like I said early I won't endorse it, but nor will I refute it.
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I feel the exact same way.

Thanks for making the attempts with me Sparky, but I don't think it's going to work out. I'm going to leave him in his "use philosophie and big words so I sound smart" mode and try to forget this thread ever existed.
Yes 1nt3ll1gence is a b1tch.

IF you need any clarification on what the above means, please ask. I tried to put it in "simple" words and numbers which seems to be the most common dialect on these forums.
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10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian

Thank's for generalizing a whole group of people that belive alot of different thing's.

I know you didn't make that up yourself but thank's for the ignorance.
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Thank's for generalizing a whole group of people that belive alot of different thing's.

I know you didn't make that up yourself but thank's for the ignorance.
Well, I agree with the second sentence in your post, although if you would kindly take the time to read the whole thread, or at least my last 2 post you will know why I can't agree with the first.
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Well, I agree with the second sentence in your post, although if you would kindly take the time to read the whole thread, or at least my last 2 post you will know why I can't agree with the first.

I read your first post and commented on it not what everyone else is talking about that was my thought's on your first post nothing else.
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