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2. Anybody can pick and choose certain quotes from the Bible or other books. I forget what it's called but it's something along the line of quote-serching, but what you are doing is showing one side while ignoring the whole.
Fundamentalist Christians (and most moderate, and even liberal Christians) believe that the Old Testament was written by god himself, and that the New Testament is an eye-witness account that documented word-for-word, action-by-action what Jesus said and did. To refute anything in the Old Testament is to call god a liar, and to refute anything in the New Testament is to call the deciples of Jesus a liar. You can't just claim that some of what the Bible says is true, because if you do, than the entire thing comes under scrutiny.

If you a Christian than you cannot deny that the quotes I used are false, because they are in your most sacred book, and are god's word/will; and because of that, they fully pertain to the argument.
 
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Fundamentalist Christians (and most moderate, and even liberal Christians) believe that the Old Testament was written by god himself, and that the New Testament is an eye-witness account that documented word-for-word, action-by-action what Jesus said and did. To refute anything in the Old Testament is to call god a liar, and to refute anything in the New Testament is to call the deciples of Jesus a liar. You can't just claim that some of what the Bible says is true, because if you do, than the entire thing comes under scrutiny.

If you a Christian than you cannot deny that the quotes I used are false, because they are in your most sacred book, and are god's word/will; and because of that, they fully pertain to the argument.
1. Oks so your saying there is only one sect of Christianity that aren't liars, and out of those only fundamentalists are true believers.
2. By pointing out one quote you are ignoring the whole book, God said that he would never drown humanity again, he preached compassion and forgiveness. You are just ignorant and refuse to accept these aspects of the Bible because it wouldn't be conducive to your argument that Hitler was doing God's work and your apparent vandetta against Christianity.


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Any one who reads the bible in modern day times must understand that the definitions of its words are over 2,000 years old. Therefore, it would be unwise to study the bible without the aid of a biblical dictionary.

Furthermore, when translating text from the original Hebrew bible, much information is lost. The NIV, KJV, and All American Standard translations are not entirely accurate.

More importantly one must study ancient Sumerian writings. The Garden of Eden was located in Sumeria not in the King James translation or any other. Early biblical writings were borrowed from ancient Sumerian clay tablets. If someone is ignorant of these ancient writings they will misinterpret the Book of Genesis entirely.
And lastly, who are you to go about defining the requirments of a whole religion. Here's alittle piece of advice, stop being so damn egotistical because the fact is you don't know everything, hell you don't know anything.
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.01% ROFLOLMAOCOPTER. That obviously is just what YOUR experience was. God answers 100% of prayers, just maybe not in the cut-in-dry answer you were looking for initially.
 
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.01% ROFLOLMAOCOPTER. That obviously is just what YOUR experience was. God answers 100% of prayers, just maybe not in the cut-in-dry answer you were looking for initially.
Like I said early, these arn't my words so don't associate myself with them.

But personally, when I pray i tend to use alot of reverse psychology...I think it's working.
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1. Oks so your saying there is only one sect of Christianity that aren't liars, and out of those only fundamentalists are true believers.
2. By pointing out one quote you are ignoring the whole book, God said that he would never drown humanity again, he preached compassion and forgiveness. You are just ignorant and refuse to accept these aspects of the Bible because it wouldn't be conducive to your argument that Hitler was doing God's work and your apparent vandetta against Christianity.
I never said it was my argument - I said it was HITLER'S! Your just so angry you can't see past that.

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But personally, when I pray i tend to use alot of reverse psychology...I think it's working.
I have a feeling that an all knowing god would see through that...
 
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I never said it was my argument - I said it was HITLER'S! Your just so angry you can't see past that.
I'm angry, wow that's news to me



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I have a feeling that an all knowing god would see through that...
Ok so, lets all listen to your interpretation of the bible because you have a feeling. f..k LOGIC, true understanding comes from the gut
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I have a feeling that an all knowing god would see through that...
Yeah. But what counts is that it sticks out. Maybe there's some universal prayer answering quota. Somthing like that'd stick out a little more.

Time for some higher dimensional role playing

Try to imagine that you're G_d, and then try to imagine you know what that means, shortly followed by wondering whether or not you comprehend yourself, eventually followed by a "What a stupid idea...." Whatever.
So, you get 30 million requests a day for a pony.
"Dear G_d, I'd like a pony. Maybe 2."
One day, you get this: "Dear G_d, whatever you do, DON'T give me a pony. I don't want a pony at all. Please disregard the 11,000 other times I asked for a pony."
A nice change of pace, 'eh? Just for that change in monotony, why not give away a pony or two?
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I'm angry, wow that's news to me
You might not be angry, but you sure are missing the point. Why is that?

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For the last time, it's NOT MY INTERPRETATION OF THE BIBLE! I'm quoting OTHER PEOPLE'S interpretations. That entire concept seems to have completely escaped you.
 
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For the last time, it's NOT MY INTERPRETATION OF THE BIBLE! I'm quoting OTHER PEOPLE'S interpretations. That entire concept seems to have completely escaped you.
So when you said this interpretaion
"Then, by definition, you are NOT a Christian. Christians, again, by defintion, believe that the Old and New Testament is the word of god; and to not literally believe the Old and New Testaments is an act of defiance. The Old Testament is believed to be the literal word of god, and to not believe just one word is to call god a liar. The New Testament is believed to be an eye-witness account, and to not believe even just one line is to call Jesus and his deciples liars. Your either a Christian, or your not - it's really not that hard to figure out."

You were quoting someone else's interpretation of the Bible. Funny, I don't see any quotation marks around that paragraph, it appears as if you wrote that yourself. Or are you saying that you lack the ability to think for yourself, instead, relying on ideas stolen from other people just put into different words.
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So when you said this interpretaion
"Then, by definition, you are NOT a Christian. Christians, again, by defintion, believe that the Old and New Testament is the word of god; and to not literally believe the Old and New Testaments is an act of defiance. The Old Testament is believed to be the literal word of god, and to not believe just one word is to call god a liar. The New Testament is believed to be an eye-witness account, and to not believe even just one line is to call Jesus and his deciples liars. Your either a Christian, or your not - it's really not that hard to figure out."

You were quoting someone else's interpretation of the Bible. Funny, I don't see any quotation marks around that paragraph, it appears as if you wrote that yourself. Or are you saying that you lack the ability to think for yourself, instead, relying on ideas stolen from other people just put into different words.
Sorry for not including quotations - I thought it was obvious that Christians believed what Jesus' deciples said; and that they also believed what god wrote. How dumb of me.
 
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