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Originally Posted by ekattan Stem Cell Research is not only opposed by religious people but also by government. You see those smarty pants at the research labs want the government to fund them and the government said yeah but on one condition, that they split the profits from any discovery made. Well the Labs said no and the government said f..k you. Let me ask you this, are you opposed to cloning? Well stem cells are almost the same thing except they destroy the egg for the cells. |
Almost the same thing? So, not the same thing, right? Are you against stem cell research?
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Originally Posted by ekattan Mid-East stability: There would be stability if the US would allow other countries to their own devices. Imagine if the US wouldn't have interfered with the Afghan-Russian war, no 9-11. Imagine if the US wouldn't have interfered with the Iran-Iraq crisis, no invasion of Kuwait. You see those people just want to live thier lives as they see fit, who are we to tell them they should have a democratic government and they should really allow their women to wear low rise jeans instead of those bee catcher's outfits. |
There's no way stability would happen if the US simply kept out. The Middle East is just a volatile place. Lots of Muslims are pissed off that Americans conquer everything they touch while Islamic society stagnates. They're envious of the West to the point of violence.
They don't just want to live their lives as they see fit, they want to tell other people how to live their lives as well. You're probably tempted to say that we're doing the same thing, but there's a difference between "You need to ensure that everyone has basic rights" and "You're showing too much skin."
Ideally, our involvement is aimed at the former in the hopes that the latter can be eradicated.
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Originally Posted by ekattan Education: Well the education system in the US is mostly public so if those religious people want to teach their children something different than what tax paying dollars have to offer, let them put their children in a private school. |
As long as those tax dollars don't go towards putting intelligent design in science classrooms, we're fine.
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Originally Posted by ekattan Equality: Marriage is a religious ceremony, which is declared to be between a man an a woman. If gays want to be married let them come up with their own fukcin ceremony but not marriage. next thing you'll know people will want rights for marrying an animal, like happened in India. You see, you gotta draw the line soemwhere. |
Marriage may have originated as a religious institution, but it needs to evolve into something a little more secular. I'd normally advocate the gradual phasing-out of anything religious, but marriage is pretty useful. Once it's secular, we won't have to worry about religion getting in the way. I don't really know how the ceremony would go, without the church, no preacher, et cetera. But I'm sure we could figure something out that's traditional in a nostalgic sort of way. You're right about drawing the line somewhere. Let's do it at animals. Gay marriage doesn't cheapen marriage overall. It doesn't even affect your marriage at all, ekattan. Gays should receive all the same benefits and they shouldn't have to call it something different.
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