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What's so special about that? Why does preaching our intention for being on this planet make Jesus right and Muhammad wrong? And you did say that Jesus made sense.
That's an awful generalization. What evidence do you have to back it up? A lack of remorse is not necessarily due to mental defect.
Muhammad and Jesus were both messengers of God. Their preachings do not conflict. They both preached the same message, that there is only one God and that we should worship him alone.


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My question was, "How do you know which ones are wrong and which ones are right?" You did not give me an answer.
See that is the difference between the Quran and the Bible. They are both words of God, but the Quran has not been altered by man and does not contradict itself[unlike the Bible(which has many editions)]. You will not find a muslim that will say the Quran has been altered by man(unlike christians such as ekattan who will openly state that the bible has been altered) because the Quran has NOT been altered and will never be altered.

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How many scientists? Three? If I found a couple former Muslims who had converted to Hinduism and claimed that Islam was baseless, would you believe them? (That's a rhetorical question. Don't come back to this thread.)

And in the future, would you please just mutter it to yourself whenever you feel like saying, "Peace be upon him," rather than typing it out? It's really annoying.
The burden is on you. I have provided you with scientists that said and proved that the statements in the Quran are scientific and NOT baseless. If you found a group of Hindus that converted from Islam to Hinduism(which Im sure you would not be able to find) they would have to PROVE that Islam is baseless which they will not be able to do. I have provided you with proof, yet you have not provided me with any.
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My mind is an open vessel. Why do you think I took a 5 credit course in college in Evolutionary Biology?

Generally, I am accepting of all people, irregardless of who they are, and I really don't appreciate you attacking me, telling me I am closed minded when you know nothing about me at all. Forums like this only give words, not emotions, therefore, don't even judge me, because you don't know me at all.
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Phat O 101, I have patiently tried to explain why the evidence you presented was utter bullsh.t (and so have many others), but you just don't get it. I think one of your biggest problems is your complete lack of understanding of the scientific concepts you're criticizing. I rarely put people on my ignore list, but you just earned yourself a spot. PM if you feel like you've got something really important to say, because I won't be able to see your posts from now on.
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Phat O 101, I have patiently tried to explain why the evidence you presented was utter bullsh.t (and so have many others), but you just don't get it. I think one of your biggest problems is your complete lack of understanding of the scientific concepts you're criticizing. I rarely put people on my ignore list, but you just earned yourself a spot. PM if you feel like you've got something really important to say, because I won't be able to see your posts from now on.
In other words...you are ashamed and sick of seeing me tear up your pathetic arguments piece by piece...and if anything I am the one being patient with you.

EDIT: There are many other scientific references in the Quran other than its references to the geology of mountains and Human Embryonic Development, go to my thread labeled-God and the Quaran debate for more information.
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My mind is an open vessel. Why do you think I took a 5 credit course in college in Evolutionary Biology?

Generally, I am accepting of all people, irregardless of who they are, and I really don't appreciate you attacking me, telling me I am closed minded when you know nothing about me at all. Forums like this only give words, not emotions, therefore, don't even judge me, because you don't know me at all.
Why five credits? They are usually 4 unless you had a lab with it.
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In other words...you are ashamed and sick of seeing me tear up your pathetic arguments piece by piece...and if anything I am the one being patient with you.

EDIT: There are many other scientific references in the Quran other than its references to the geology of mountains and Human Embryonic Development, go to my thread labeled-God and the Quaran debate for more information.

I am going to have to agree. You really don't have a firm grasp on any scientific theory or the concept of evidence. I think it must be your environment or you just haven't had enough school yet.
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It was 5 credits because we had lecture for 3 hours a week, Monday Wednesday, and Friday, and Lab on Tuesday for 2 hours. It was a ridiculously hard class.
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My mind is an open vessel. Why do you think I took a 5 credit course in college in Evolutionary Biology?

Generally, I am accepting of all people, irregardless of who they are, and I really don't appreciate you attacking me, telling me I am closed minded when you know nothing about me at all. Forums like this only give words, not emotions, therefore, don't even judge me, because you don't know me at all.
I'm really not attacking you, and I'm not saying that you aren't generally accepting of people. All I'm saying is that, by definition, your mind is closed to anything that you consider to be in conflict with Christianity. Is there any chance in your mind that Islam is right? How about Hinduism, or Buddhism? If not, your mind is closed to those belief systems.
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I want to add something to this thread...but everything I have to say has been said already.
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In other words...you are ashamed and sick of seeing me tear up your pathetic arguments piece by piece...and if anything I am the one being patient with you.

EDIT: There are many other scientific references in the Quran other than its references to the geology of mountains and Human Embryonic Development, go to my thread labeled-God and the Quaran debate for more information.
You are not tearing his argument up... you are just making yourself look like a fool. Pretty much everybody in this thread has agreed that you are wrong, so just stop talking.
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