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You have a major hard-on for Darwin.
Dude I'm not the one that made a f..king thread defending his ass till death do you part.
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Dude I'm not the one that made a f..king thread defending his ass till death do you part.
I defend evolution. My personal relationship with Darwin only goes as far as the bedroom and you know that.

And he IS sexy. I know you dig beards too.
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Why do you belive in your science books or anything that they teach you at school? Do you ask your teacher for any evidence, or just because it's a text book taught at school it must be 100% accurate?
Like I've said many times before, I don't believe absolutely in my science book. I acknowledge the possibility that, while the ideas presented are the best-fit theories so far developed, they may be wrong. Also, evidence is provided in my science and math classes to demonstrate why the theories are considered best-fit.

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When your mom says she loves you, can she prove it? Acts of goodness doesn't prove love, you can like somebody and do nice things for them but how do you know they love you. Or do you just think that because she is your mother she must love you?
Bad example, my mom doesn't know what love is. And it doesn't sound like you do, either. Love isn't some undefinable enigma. You cannot actually love someone until you've defined love for yourself. It would be like saying you're happy without knowing what happy is. If my girlfriend has developed her own definition of love and tells me that her feelings towards me are in accordance with that definition, then I know that she loves me (this is assuming that she is real and not merely a figment of my imagination, which I find to be a very reasonable assumption).

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What about your doctor, when he tells you you have an ear infection or any other infection do you ask him for proof? How sure can you be it's not soemthing else?
The likelihood that my doctor would lie to me is so infinitesimally small in my mind that don't question his prognosis. This is because he has a good track record, at least relative to faith healers. My doctor has proven himself to know what he's talking about.

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You see Colostomizer, somethings in life we have to have faith in and trust people. Our common sense helps with that and a little intelligence always helps. That is why we believe without proof, we trust those people and somethings just feel right, that is why we have faith. No one can prove to you they love you, you just got to trust them. It's the same with God, we all have free will and God wants us to believe on our own.
I've agree with you on this before. Yes, faith comes in handy. However, it's never sufficient by itself to justify believing in something absolutely. The reason for that is simple, and I'll restate it: if faith by itself was good enough, then Christianity and Islam would both be justified (there is as much evidence of Jesus' resurrection as there is of the validity of the Quran; none). But, they cannot both be true because they're contradictory, so faith must not be enough.

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If God appeared in the heavens to give you proof you would believe in him, but would you love him? Or would you just follow his commandments out of fear instead of believing what he has taught us is the right path to salvation?
If God proved to me that the Bible is right, I'd follow it. That includes loving God, so I guess I'd love Him.

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Germans didn't belive in Hitler, many just followed orders and others were just as evil and maybe more.
Are you really saying that there wasn't a single German who believed in Hitler's racial theories? You're a little off. Some people definitely went with the crowd out of fear, but when Hitler spewed his crap at rallies, most Germans ate it up.

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Blacks were subjected to slavery because they were overpowered and forced, or do you think they were promised food, condos, and a pimp life elsewhere?
So, blacks weren't subjected to slavery because white people thought they were inferior?

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About other cults the answer is simple, some people are just ignorant.
Cults are simply religions that haven't become mainstream. People accept Christ because they don't value evidence and they're born into an environment in which Christianity holds the most influence over their lives. People join cults for the same reason, except the influence is different.

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I defend evolution. My personal relationship with Darwin only goes as far as the bedroom and you know that.

And he IS sexy. I know you dig beards too.
Ooh, ticklish.
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Post a pic of your girlfriend so I can see what she looks like
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Post a pic of your girlfriend so I can see what she looks like
Who are you talking to? Me?
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Who are you talking to? Me?
Yeah silly goose I posted right below you
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Yeah silly goose I posted right below you
I was making sure because that was a pretty random post. I've got prom pictures sitting on a bookshelf across the room and no way to get them on the computer. Sorry. Once I get them in electronic form, I'll post in the Pics of Everyone thread.
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Bad example, my mom doesn't know what love is. And it doesn't sound like you do, either. Love isn't some undefinable enigma. You cannot actually love someone until you've defined love for yourself. It would be like saying you're happy without knowing what happy is.If my girlfriend has developed her own definition of love and tells me that her feelings towards me are in accordance with that definition, then I know that she loves me (this is assuming that she is real and not merely a figment of my imagination, which I find to be a very reasonable assumption).
thats where I found out you had a girlfriend
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Though I have nothing add to "debate" this, I will say, I've considered myself Agnostic for a while now. Though legally..until 18, I am Jewish. :o
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Though I have nothing add to "debate" this, I will say, I've considered myself Agnostic for a while now. Though legally..until 18, I am Jewish. :o
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