Ahhh good ol' Religion debate section.. the memories.. have fun gents..

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...Thanks?

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"Control the masses"?... well i think it's safe to say they kinda didn't do a very good job.

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"We laugh at honor and are shocked when we find knives in our backs, we follow those who cheat and steal. Look in my eyes, you won't find your way back. Our only compass smashed under our own heels, under our iron will. The abolition of man is within the reach of science. But are we so far gone that we'll try it?" - Dustin Kensrue

Really?

Look how many people take part in religion. Look how much religion is accepted as a norm.

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*looks at the middle east* Yeah, sure they didnt do a good job of that.

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"Religion is the opiate of the people" -Karl Marx (lolsig)

This has kind of a positive and also negative connotation. It's not solely negative, given the time period in which it was written. Opium wasn't considered bad and was smoked openly in dens in China and in other places around the world. Marx perceived that, "Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering". He also stated that, "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is their demand for real happiness".

I'd agree with him totally here, even though I'm no longer a communist. I think his ideas on religion though do make a lot of sense; it's sort of a 'necessary evil' for many people. Many don't truly believe in their religion, but instead cling on to it whenever times are bad and they need to make themselves feel better in a difficult situation.

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True, but it often also causes major divisions and tension between groups. That's kinda my point.

And i understand what you mean Erik.

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"We laugh at honor and are shocked when we find knives in our backs, we follow those who cheat and steal. Look in my eyes, you won't find your way back. Our only compass smashed under our own heels, under our iron will. The abolition of man is within the reach of science. But are we so far gone that we'll try it?" - Dustin Kensrue

I am an Atheist because it pisses Christians off.

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Religion was pretty much a fact to most people in medieval times. It did a very good job of controlling the masses actually.

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Touché.....

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"We laugh at honor and are shocked when we find knives in our backs, we follow those who cheat and steal. Look in my eyes, you won't find your way back. Our only compass smashed under our own heels, under our iron will. The abolition of man is within the reach of science. But are we so far gone that we'll try it?" - Dustin Kensrue