I have never been more sure of anything in my entire life - you don't have a f..king clue.

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Christians are worried about this movie because it is undoubtedly drawing children towards these books which display quite a distorted and immoral message.
I know this from personal experience, as I as a kid 4-5 years ago, I accidentally picked thoes books up from the CHILDRENS SECTION at Chapters.
My parents had no idea that the books contained such twisted content.
This is why Christians are raising awareness and boycotting the movie in the first place.


Come again?

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You're missing the point!

HOW IS PORTRAYING CHURCH LEADERS IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT IMMORAL? ARE THEY INFALLIBLE? Where is the cognitive link between satire and immorality?

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TMBH:

Slippery slope fallacy.

If Christians had anything even remotely resembling logic...nah, nevermind. Christians are too used to disobeying the logical laws of our Universe. Even hypothetical scenarios where they obey said laws are laughable only because the idea that they'd actually use that stuff between their ears is...unthinkable.

Me:


So now you're saying that Christians don't use their logic to arrive at conclusions?
I'm sorry but you're making a VERY broad assumption which is both untrue and downright ignorant.


TMBH:

So, only books that agree with your point of view on god should be allowed? Nice, ya f.ckin Nazi.


Me:
I never said books that agree with MY point of view are the only ones that should be published.
I was saying that there are books which direct various messages towards the reader and are to be taken seriously, especially when a disriminatory message is geared at young children.
Did I ever say "ban all books that aren't Christian"?
No.
I'm saying that we have to watch the types of books (specificallyy the Pullman series) and their content. It has already been discerned that the subject matter in thoes books is immoral. It has nothing to do with my Christian views, but simply the moral ground in which we stand.

TMBH:

So the Bible should also be banned, right? There are hundreds of racist and sexist accounts that advocate the slaughter and rape of innocent people. Remember those logical laws I referenced earlier?


Me:
If you're drawing thoes conclusions from the Bible, you are not interpreting it under the canonical context. That is a totally different topic alltogether, so lets not go there yet.


By giving the example of that movie to the book, it was simply to get at the point I was addressing, not to PROVE it. It was an example made so my view would be slightly more understandable.



This is in reference to the original point that he made.

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Atheism is a crutch for those who cannot bear the reality of God.
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Of course they're in the children's section - they're children's books. Your statement only goes to show that any opinion contradictory to your own is hostile for no other reason other than being contradictory.

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The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authority; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion.
-Thomas Paine

This kid is absolutely nuts. There is no other explanation for this statements, and counter statements.

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The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authority; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion.
-Thomas Paine

Christians are not particularly amused by the movie (as the thread starter asked) and are boycotting it.
You can go see it if you want, but thats not the main problem.
What people are worried about is that children will be drawn towards the books upon seeing the movie-which I have experienced so personally.
The message of the books, as I have so often stated, is immoral.
If you read a little bit about Pullman you'll understand that he's a twisted person who openly displays deep hatred towards C.S Lewis and other Theists.
Thats how.
The main message, apart from making such lurid claims about Church leaders, is completely inapropriate and unsuitable for children.

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You've said nothing we haven't already heard, and acknowledge that we've heard. But, again, having a distaste for the church is not un-ethical, and exposing kids to that distaste is not un-ethical either (unless you have a bias toward religion). There is no amoral message within the movie, or the books. You f..king fail at life.

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The message that religion is corrupt is inappropriate and unsuitable for children? What about the threat of an eternity of suffering and burning for not living on their knees before an invisible, magic person who lives in the sky? Is that appropriate?

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So you think depicting priests in a different way is immoral?

Ha. Dumbass. Priests are not untouchable. You think it's unfair that children might get a negative point of view of Christianity? Well then that's too bad, but it's not immoral, do you know how many other books and sources of Media target other religions and demonize them? But apparently you think Christianity should get immunity...

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