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Really, is that what he was saying?
I beleive I made my point about that very clear, and said that was definately FALSE.
I never said all non-Christian books should never be published or the like.
My point about the Pullman movie/ books was already made various times.
Ill quote myself again.

That comparison=Acceptable?
I don't know what rules you abide by but they seem very out of whack.
If I recall correctly, it was TMBH, not me who invoked the Godwin thing.
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Really, is that what he was saying?
I beleive I made my point about that very clear, and said that was definately FALSE.
That comparison=Acceptable?
I don't know what rules you abide by but they seem very out of whack.
You threw out a non-sequitur, while I injected a valid comparison. If you wish to challege it, demonstrate how the comaprison is invalid.
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I thought it was already evident that Hitler was an atheist since he privately denounced Christianity and its teachings. Apparently not.
What he told others obviously didn't reflect his true beleifs (or DIS-beleif) at all.
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You threw out a non-sequitur, while I injected a valid comparison. If you wish to challege it, demonstrate how the comaprison is invalid.
The comparison demonstrates a hateful attitude towards the person which it is directed.
Where you to do that at a public debate /conversation.....
The point is, that comparison is unacceptable.
Tha NAZIs were terrible people and you have no right to compare me to "a f..king NAZI" while I'm having a debate with NiceGuy.

My previous post actually does follows davobrosias' comments.
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Communities tend to be guided less than individuals by conscience and a sense of responsibility. How much misery does this fact cause mankind! It is the source of wars and every kind of oppression, which fill the earth with pain, sighs and bitterness.
(Albert Einstein, 1934)

Its a deep quote that I thought you should ponder.

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Say who?

If a movie gets children to read a book, I say show it in every theater in the world.

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Right f.cking on.

Children need to read anyway; this is a piece of literature, so there's no reason a child shouldn't be reading it.

Not all literature, just like all movies, have a positive moral message. The idea is to have a varying, broad scope of feelings that books and movies incite inside of us. It's called diversity.
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Quoting your statments just for reference BTW.



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I thought it was already evident that Hitler was an atheist since he privately denounced Christianity and its teachings. Apparently not.
What he told other obviously didn't reflect his true beleifs (or DIS-beleif) at all.
You provided evidence that Hitler rejected Christianity and became a non-believer in god, but I provided evidence (from the same source you did, no less) that Hitler still believed in an almighty Lawgiver. So, in no way can he be considered an atheist.

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The comparison demonstrates a hateful attitude towards the person which it is directed.
Where you to do that at a public debate /conversation.....
The point is, that comparison is unacceptable.
Tha NAZIs were terrible people and you have no right to compare me to "a f.cking NAZI".
One Nazi ideal was to keep children away from books that might teach something contradictory to Nazi ideology.

You want children not to read a book that might teach children something contradictory to your own ideology.

The comparison was valid. You slippery sloped your way to believing that I called you a Nazi in every way, shape, and form.
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lookin, what the fuϲk is your point? If Hitler was an atheist, so what? Are you trying to say that all atheists are immoral? If that's what you're getting at, you need to demonstrate how Hitler perpetrated the Holocaust because of his lack of belief in God, and you need to explain how not all Christians are responsible for the Inquisition. If this is not the point you're making, why even bring up Hitler's beliefs?
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You provided evidence that Hitler rejected Christianity and became a non-believer in god, but I provided evidence (from the same source you did, no less) that Hitler still believed in an almighty Lawgiver. So, in no way can he be considered an atheist.



One Nazi ideal was to keep children away from books that might teach something contradictory to Nazi ideology.

You want children not to read a book that might teach children something contradictory to your own ideology.

The comparison was valid. You slippery sloped your way to believing that I called you a Nazi in every way, shape, and form.

You were accusing me of saying that I beleived in banning all non-Christian books.
I NEVER said that. This was what i said, which you distorted:

Certainly YOU may read the book, and study the message accordinngly.
Diversity is important, but its important to note the age at which someone should be exposed to a message backed behind hatred.
Certainly not young children, wouldn't you say?
Certainly YOU may read the book, and study the message accordinngly.
Diversity is important, but its important to note the age at which someone should be exposed to a message backed behind hatred.
Certainly not young children, wouldn't you say?
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Communities tend to be guided less than individuals by conscience and a sense of responsibility. How much misery does this fact cause mankind! It is the source of wars and every kind of oppression, which fill the earth with pain, sighs and bitterness.
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Its a deep quote that I thought you should ponder.
Maybe you should ponder it. Christianity is the largest community in the world, after all.
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You were accusing me of saying that I beleived in banning all non-Christian books.
I NEVER said that. This was the point I made which you distorted:
A-f..king-gain, you didn't comprehend what I wrote. I wrote that the only reason Christians are boycotting the books and the movie is because the book was written by an atheist, and has a skeptical attitude toward religion. You've failed to produce any evidence indicating the book preaches bad morals.

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Certainly YOU may read the book, and study the message accordinngly.
Diversity is important, but its important to note the age at which someone should be exposed to a message backed behind hatred.
Certainly not young children, wouldn't you say?
Point proven.
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