Hitler may in public have claimed to be doing the will of God, but records of his private conversations show otherwise. Many of these were recorded by his secretary and published in a book called Hitler's Table Talk
If he didn't worship a god, who did he worship?
Himself.
Did he beleive in a God?
No. Thus establishing him as someone who either
a. Knows of God's existence but rejects him.
b. Rejects the idea of a Supreme Being altogether, which is where most people agree he stood.




sigh...Its like teaching my little bro how to ride a bike all over again.
This is getting very frustrating. ALl the others viewing the thread seem to have grasped the point.

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Okay, I'm not going to beat around the bush. I know what your original point was - that Hitler used Christianity (without being a Christian) to gain office - I'm just saying it's un-substantiated. Well after he gained office, he still proclaimed to be Christian, and even after the beginning of the Second World War, he made the same proclamation:

EDIT: until I find the correct citation, I'm not using the quote.

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From what I've seen, these are the types of messages that you post all the time when addressig a Christian.
Its just unnecessary.

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The evidence for Hitler's PRIVATE (That is, he kept it from the public throughout his years in office) rejection of Christianity is there.
Ultimately his rejection of God, or any other Supreme Being, is obivous as is seen through the documented conversations he privately had with certain people.
What do call someone who either
a. Knows of the existence of a SUpreme Being, but rejects it.
b. Rejects the notion of a Supreme Being altogether

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How about you understand what the f.ck Godwin's Law is, why it applies here, and why this thread's about through before you start mouthing off? The only reason you aren't banned from this section is because you're amusing, like watching a declawed cat try to climb things.

When you made that little "Oh, and by the way, Hitler was Atheist" comment, you lost. Remember the Crusades? Remember the Dark Ages, with millions of witch burnings and hangings of people who disagreed with Christian ideology?

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You realize that our Hitler discussion has nothing to do with the thread, right? The evidence regarding his religion is, at best, inconclusive. We're speculating here; and even if we were able to show he was an atheist, there's no evidence to show that he did what he did because he was an atheist.

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By the way, you don't need to accuse people of being "f.cking NAZIS" because theyre debating about The Golden Compass.
Just in case you needed a little reminder of etiquette/morality.

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I'm pretty sure he believed there was some kind of Deity watching over him due to the numerous attempts to be assassinated.

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f..king Christ, IN TABLE TALK, read what Hitler has to say:

IN f..kING TABLE TALK, Hitler once again proclaims his faith. Dude, he was pretty religious. Perhaps not Christian, but he was certainly religious.

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The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authority; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion.
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He was comparing your distaste for books that differ in opinion to the common Nazi (and general fascist) practice of banning books that express dissenting opinions. It was a valid comparison.

"Hitler was an atheist"? Not so much.

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