The sarcasm isn't funny at all, seeing how I never stated anything like that I was just explaining why Christians are not particularly amused by the movie (as the thread starter asked) and are boycotting it.
You can go see it if you want, but thats not the main problem.
What people are worried about is that children will be drawn towards the books upon seeing the movie-which I have experienced so personally.
The message of the books, as I have so often stated, is immoral.
If you read a little bit about Pullman you'll understand that he's a twisted person who openly displays deep hatred towards C.S Lewis and other Theists. He shows no remorse for his actions and continues to abide by very limited moral standards.
Please don't make me repeat myself, the message is quite clear, and I think we can all agree that if you do a LITTLE bit of research into Pullmans backround, his intentions of writing thoes books are incredibly twisted and definately inapropriate for the intended audience.

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But it's a book; that's why it's absurd.

Parents, and hell for the sake of argument the Bible, are meant to teach kids right from wrong and act as their moral basis.

If they know such things already, they should be able to recognize the immorality of the book and not act on such immorality.

Say who?

If a movie gets children to read a book, I say show it in every theater in the world.

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Right f..king on.

Children need to read anyway; this is a piece of literature, so there's no reason a child shouldn't be reading it.

Not all literature, just like all movies, have a positive moral message. The idea is to have a varying, broad scope of feelings that books and movies incite inside of us. It's called diversity.

So HYPOTHETICALLY, someone is to show a movie that advocates the murder of all Jews, and prompts kids to read a book which extends the same message, does that mean it should be shown all around?
My point is that the message behind the books is very important in determining wether its apporopriate or not.
Some people who are not aware of the message of immorality and hatred aimed towards children will pick up the book.
Thus, raising awareness about it is only logical.

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Certainly YOU may read the book, and study the message accordinngly.
Diversity is important, but its important to note the age at which someone should be exposed to a message backed behind hatred.
Certainly not young children, wouldn't you say?

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Its a deep quote that I thought you should ponder.

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Say who?

If a movie gets children to read a book, I say show it in every theater in the world.

NiceGuy:

Right f.cking on.

Children need to read anyway; this is a piece of literature, so there's no reason a child shouldn't be reading it.

Not all literature, just like all movies, have a positive moral message. The idea is to have a varying, broad scope of feelings that books and movies incite inside of us. It's called diversity.
^^^
Quoting your statments just for reference BTW.

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Slippery slope fallacy.

If Christians had anything even remotely resembling logic...nah, nevermind. Christians are too used to disobeying the logical laws of our Universe. Even hypothetical scenarios where they obey said laws are laughable only because the idea that they'd actually use that stuff between their ears is...unthinkable.

So, only books that agree with your point of view on god should be allowed? Nice, ya f..kin Nazi.

So the Bible should also be banned, right? There are hundreds of racist and sexist accounts that advocate the slaughter and rape of innocent people. Remember those logical laws I referenced earlier?

Your conclusion cannot be logical if you arrived at said conclusion be committing a significant number of logical fallacies.

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TMBH:

Slippery slope fallacy.

If Christians had anything even remotely resembling logic...nah, nevermind. Christians are too used to disobeying the logical laws of our Universe. Even hypothetical scenarios where they obey said laws are laughable only because the idea that they'd actually use that stuff between their ears is...unthinkable.

Me:


So now you're saying that Christians don't use their logic to arrive at conclusions?
I'm sorry but you're making a VERY broad assumption which is both untrue and downright ignorant.


TMBH:

So, only books that agree with your point of view on god should be allowed? Nice, ya f.ckin Nazi.


Me:
I never said books that agree with MY point of view are the only ones that should be published.
I was saying that there are books which direct various messages towards the reader and are to be taken seriously, especially when a disriminatory message is geared at young children.
Did I ever say "ban all books that aren't Christian"?
No.
I'm saying that we have to watch the types of books (specificallyy the Pullman series) and their content. It has already been discerned that the subject matter in thoes books is immoral. It has nothing to do with my Christian views, but simply the moral ground in which we stand.

TMBH:

So the Bible should also be banned, right? There are hundreds of racist and sexist accounts that advocate the slaughter and rape of innocent people. Remember those logical laws I referenced earlier?


Me:
If you're drawing thoes conclusions from the Bible, you are not interpreting it under the canonical context. That is a totally different topic alltogether, so lets not go there yet.


By giving the example of that movie to the book, it was simply to get at the point I was addressing, not to PROVE it. It was an example made so my view would be slightly more understandable.





Oh, and by the way, Hitler was Atheist.

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Who told you that? He mentions god in tons of his public speeches and one of his close advisors called him a "deeply religious man". He even stated his religiousness in Mein Kampf.

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