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Still, I consider that more of a curiosity. I have many other reasons. For instance, back in 6th or 7th grade, I had a pretty interesting thing happen. Well, several, actually, but I'll just post one for now. We had one old sub who, for whatever reason, really didn't like me. She liked Lammie, though, which I couldn't quite understand, since we were rather similar. It was quite comic, actually. I had a yellow eraser attachment thing on my pencil, since their standard erasers were terrible. It had been slowly developing a tear down it for the past few weeks, and was at the point where the tear was half way through the eraser and barely holding on to the pencil. We had that sub in English, and in the process of writing, the eraser came off. It was too far away for me to reach it, so I got up and retrieved it. The sub yelled at me for it, of course. I tried explaining the situation to her, and showing her the tear, with my silly naive notions that shown the situation, people can objectively come to a proper conclusion. Of course, that didn't help. Somewhat distraught, I put the eraser into my pocket to avoid that happening again. I wished/prayed that something like that couldn't happen, or that it hadn't happened, etc. I have problems remembering exact frames of mind from 7ish years ago... That was, I think, the final period of the day, so afterwards I headed out to the bus. When the bus got home, I went to pull out the eraser and contemplate human nature, but when I looked for the tear, I couldn't find it. The eraser was completely whole. I checked my other pocket to see if the broken one was there, despite remembering that it had been in the pocket the whole one was in. I checked my backpack for the broken one, but it as nowhere to be found. I looked at the inside of the whole eraser, and it was sorta gray from use, just as the other had been. The tip was also worn down the same amount as the other one had been. As far as I could tell, it was the same eraser except for the disappearance of a large rip. I wondered if my body heat hat melted it slightly so that it fused back together, but I quickly dismissed that. I'm sure the other people on the bus found my exclamation of excitement pretty curious, but I had other things on my mind. After that, the only further thing that I recall about that eraser is that I lost it many times, but it always showed up again, often in places I had already checked, but it could've simply rolled around in my back pack. At the time, I remember thinking that that should be enough proof for me. As time passed, though, the freshness faded and doubt arose again. So something of a comparable level of weirdness has occurred periodically, always at rather opportune times when my doubts are at their highest. And then there's the whole 41 meta-puzzle thing. I'm not very normal... ![]()
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You need to attack the problem from both perspectives. What if a personal G_d exists, and what if it's all in our heads. If you assume that there is a personal G_d, then it would make sense that and personal evidence would be tailored to the level of proof required by the individual, or perhaps just short of that, for added ironic fun. There's still the problem of some getting their own evidence, and some not, but I don't have any clue what that'd be about. I gotta go eat ice cream. I'm sure you can see the other side pretty easily yourselves.
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| | If you really want me to, I could spend all day writing up stories similar to the stuff above. I've had them in several forms and styles. My personal evidence, however, can only be as convincing as you want it to be. The whole 41 thing has been serving as a means of connecting my "normal" life with my abormal experiences. As you'd expect, my initial reaction was to isolate it in my mind as something else, and generally didn't actually acknowledge it as actually happening, kinda like a movie. The last set of things have been aimed specifically at knocking down that barrier. Well, that's how it seems anyways. It's been pretty effective. It's my Bday tomorow, and the cards are rolling in. One of them had two $100 bills in it. The first one had a serial code starting with 0041. The second had a serial code ending in 41. The serial of the check in another card had a 41 in it, and every other 4 happened to fall right before vertical lines in the serial format, making it look like 41's. I also received a gift card to target. The first 3 numbers, separated by a dash, were 041. And none of the people sending it have any idea about my 41 thing.
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| | Asking a believer to "prove" that god exists is asinine. Religion relies on faith and belief. Trying to make logic out of it is stupid, because it really has nothing to do with it. The circular motions of belief (ex; bible is right because god wrote it, what god writes is true because the bible says so) allow for faith to stand alone. I myself am an Athiest at the moment, but I can understand why theists do as they do.
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Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dekalb,Illinois
Posts: 1,055 | so since logic is set in mathimatical law then the random formation of life on earth by chance is completely illogical, since it is a mathimatical impossibility.
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