Originally Posted by TooMuchButtHair

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-research.html

This is evidence compiled by one guy, using credible resources including scientific journals.

Originally Posted by TooMuchButtHair

That doesn't mean it's completely correct. How can two contradicting creation stories be explained?

Originally Posted by E Nomini Patri

I asked for a proof, not evidence. You said Evolution has been proven, where is the proof?

Originally Posted by E Nomini Patri

I asked for a proof, not evidence. You said Evolution has been proven, where is the proof?



Please quote where I claimed the Bible is inerrant my good man. The creation stories can be explained by saying that the Christian god doesn't have to follow man's laws.

Originally Posted by TooMuchButtHair

Why give two accounts of creation that are different? Why say animals were created before man, and than say man was created before animals? There doesn't seem to be any rational reason for doing that...

Originally Posted by SyKaNe

And im curious where it says that.

Originally Posted by E Nomini Patri

But the Bible has plenty of historical facts such as people, cities, and events that from back then. There are some great moral lessons that are still relevant to this day as well.

Originally Posted by st3althy j3wbag

that's a really dumb question to ask.
If you don't believe in god, why would you alter your decision. WHy would you go against what you think and know. Why would you want someone else to impliment their IDEAS and BELIEFS into you. MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND.
BELIEVE ME .. i know where your coming from but you have to think for yourself on these terms. It's a belief

i have tried to understand why people believe in GOd. I understand somewhat of their mindsets and ideas but to truly believe. You must feel it. Some random halo 2 player is not going to instantly change ur beliefs and ideas of believeing in God even if he/she does STATE a very valid point.


Somethimes..It takes going through some very Dramatic and emotional Event to understand what is real and what isn't.

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Also i find it interesting how humans always have to make an answer for everything.. Yes it is very Interesting and it's fun to talk about. WHy can't you just be astonished and amazed knowing that everything "out there" is so F**king GREAT! Why question and judge it.
....meh

Originally Posted by E Nomini Patri

I asked for a proof, not evidence. You said Evolution has been proven, where is the proof?



Please quote where I claimed the Bible is inerrant my good man. The creation stories can be explained by saying that the Christian god doesn't have to follow man's laws.

Originally Posted by TooMuchButtHair

Your definition of proof is so strange that evidence doesn't constitute probable cause. Probable cause in science is cause beyond 99% of all doubt, and evolution has probable cause.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/newton...ogy/bio039.htm

http://www.creationtheory.org/Introd...Evidence.shtml

Again, like I said in that other thread, the burden of proof is on you to disprove hard scientific fact. Good luck! If you suceed, you might win the Nobel Prize!

Originally Posted by TooMuchButtHair

Why give two accounts of creation that are different? Why say animals were created before man, and than say man was created before animals? There doesn't seem to be any rational reason for doing that...

Originally Posted by SyKaNe

Exactly It says in isaiah for i am the lord my ways are not your ways and my thoughts are not your thoughts.

Originally Posted by 'PaWz

That does nothing to prove the Bible is the Word of God. Nothing at all.

Originally Posted by Steve Da Egg

Are you implying that the Juedo-Chrisitan God created arbitrary rules for humanity?

Originally Posted by E Nomini Patri

Saying something is proven is like saying it will never be wrong, which science doesn't endorse and never will. However, you claim evolution has been proven which is ridiculous. The burden is on you my friend.


I don't know I didn't choose the words you read in the Bible. Ask the author.


No, I am implying that the Bible can be useful if you encounter a situation that requires personal moral review.

Originally Posted by Steve Da Egg

No, saying something is proven is like saying its a fact. It happened. We have empirical evidence.

Originally Posted by Steve Da Egg

Would your god create you imperfect? He created you in his likeness (or so says the bible) The human body is NOT perfect in any way, and it has several structures that actually inhibit its performance.

1. The eye has a blind spot.
2. The appendix has no function, and often times becomes inflamed killing the human host.
3. The pharyngeal nerve circles the heart and is several times longer than it needs to be.

Originally Posted by Steve Da Egg

Can you ask the author to prove its legitimacy? Didn't think so.

Originally Posted by Steve Da Egg

The Chrisitan picks and chooses the good moral lessons and ignores the less desirable messages. If one lesson is flawed, don't you think closer examination of all the other one is needed?