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How did God stop the sun if the sun doesn't move?
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Yes, but to us the sun is stationary. The sun moves through the galaxy at over 600,000 mph. But when relating it to the Earth, it does not move.

Dude. You cannot keep something from moving relative to the Earth if it is not moving relative to the Earth in the first place. If the Sun did revolve around Earth, and God created the Sun, then I would have no problem with him stopping it. But you can't stop something from moving around the Earth when it doesn't do that in the first place.
just because it doesn't revolve around the earth doesn't mean there is no way it could be stopped. the Bible didn't say that he stopped it from revolving around the earth, it just said it "stood still."

keep in mind that this was all translated, too.

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The Universe is large enough for there to be many more planets full of life that we will never find. Depending on the methods of the expansion of the universe, they might even be impossible to reach, even with traveling at the speed of light.

no mention of life on other planets is mentioned in the Bible, as far as i know.

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When was this discovery made that evolution was fact, last time i checked it is still a "theory"
Then you don't know the difference between a normal theory and a 'scientific theory'

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In scientific usage, a theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. It originates from and/or is supported by experimental evidence (see scientific method). In this sense, a theory is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations that is predictive, logical and testable. In principle, scientific theories are always tentative, and subject to corrections or inclusion in a yet wider theory. Commonly, a large number of more specific hypotheses may be logically bound together by just one or two theories. As a general rule for use of the term, theories tend to deal with much broader sets of universals than do hypotheses, which ordinarily deal with much more specific sets of phenomena or specific applications of a theory

Evolution is a fact. How it works is a theory (scientific theory)

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The current evidence we have, eh? That doesn't mean we have all the evidence to either prove or disprove evolution. There could be some major discovery that could disprove evolution found in the future...which means that evolution is a THEORY, not a fact. You just basically said that yourself.
Anything can be disproved if we have new evidence. But the evidence we have now is strongly in favor of evolution, and it will take alot to falsify it all. This is a scientific theory, not a normal theory

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no mention of life on other planets is mentioned in the Bible, as far as i know.
There's also no mention of atoms, particle accelerators, quantum mechanics, the asteroid belt, continental drift, or baked potatoes.
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no mention of life on other planets is mentioned in the Bible, as far as i know.
thats a ludicrous statement.... just because the bible says there arent any life on other planets doesnt mean its true.... i mean i believe in god... im christian but still thats a ludicrous statement
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In this sense, a theory is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations that is predictive, logical and testable.
Tell me, how is evolution testable? We can observe small changes within a species (micro-evolution), but no scientist has ever even documented one species becoming another(macro-evolution), much less testing it in controlled conditions. At least, not truthfully. That's how evolution works, one species undergoing sufficient genetic mutations for it to become a different species. It's not a theory, according to your (or Wikipedia's) definition, because it can't be tested.
 
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Tell me, how is evolution testable? We can observe small changes within a species (micro-evolution), but no scientist has ever even documented one species becoming another(macro-evolution), much less testing it in controlled conditions. At least, not truthfully. That's how evolution works, one species undergoing sufficient genetic mutations for it to become a different species. It's not a theory, according to your (or Wikipedia's) definition, because it can't be tested.
its like almost impossible to test it
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Tell me, how is evolution testable? We can observe small changes within a species (micro-evolution), but no scientist has ever even documented one species becoming another(macro-evolution), much less testing it in controlled conditions. At least, not truthfully. That's how evolution works, one species undergoing sufficient genetic mutations for it to become a different species. It's not a theory, according to your (or Wikipedia's) definition, because it can't be tested.
If you paid attention to the Evolution thread, Marked posted about an example of "macroevolution" which is easily observable.
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If you paid attention to the Evolution thread, Marked posted about an example of "macroevolution" which is easily observable.
could you linky please thatd be intersting to see.
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could you linky please thatd be intersting to see.
http://www.halo3forum.com/showthread...03#post2093803

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