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Why did this turn into a discussion of the Bible? I thought that this was a dinosaur thread.
Read the whole thing he wrote !!
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ok listen, dinosaurs have been carbon dated by scientists and they date as far back as 350 million years ago. the bible says that God created the earth in six days, and people were created on the sixth i think. so unless those days were actually millions of years, then dinosaurs did exist. but my theory is that (if you believe in God), that he placed their bones in the ground to test our faith
If you study literature (and if you go to college, you probably will), there's tales like Gilgamesh and The Odyessey that date back a couple thousand years before the Bible. In fact, there are many correlations between the two epic poems above and the Bible. For instance, the Flood and the story of Noah's Arc strongly resembles the story of a character in Gilgamesh (this is an epic poem, it was told before writing existed) named Utnapishtim, who gained immortality from the Gods when he built a large ship, gathered two of every animal, and survived the great flood the Gods created. Legends about King Gilgamesh appeared on clay tablets ca. 2000 BC; Luke, Gospels and Acts of the Apostles didn't occur until ca. 75. My point is that the bible is a great story, but it's not without it's influences.

Gilgamesh is representative of a period in time where all people lived and interacted with the many different gods -- prayed to them, made sacrifices for them, loved them, rivaled them. The Bible is representative of a period in time where people believed in a One True God.

Now, we all know the gods of greek mythology aren't real; how long do you think it'll take us to realize the same about the bible?


edit: Oh. And Dinosaurs totally existed.
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If you study literature (and if you go to college, you probably will), there's tales like Gilgamesh and The Odyessey that date back a couple thousand years before the Bible. In fact, there are many correlations between the two epic poems above and the Bible. For instance, the Flood and the story of Noah's Arc strongly resembles the story of a character in Gilgamesh (this is an epic poem, it was told before writing existed) named Utnapishtim, who gained immortality from the Gods when he built a large ship, gathered two of every animal, and survived the great flood the Gods created. Legends about King Gilgamesh appeared on clay tablets ca. 2000 BC; Luke, Gospels and Acts of the Apostles didn't occur until ca. 75. My point is that the bible is a great story, but it's not without it's influences.

Gilgamesh is representative of a period in time where all people lived and interacted with the many different gods -- prayed to them, made sacrifices for them, loved them, rivaled them. The Bible is representative of a period in time where people believed in a One True God.

Now, we all know the gods of greek mythology aren't real; how long do you think it'll take us to realize the same about the bible?


edit: Oh. And Dinosaurs totally existed.
Not to mention that Gilgamesh was the first written book, and it was written more than two thousand years before the first person called himself a Hebrew. The same civilization also wrote Hammurabi's Code, which is the first set of written laws, and these also pre-dated the Old Testament by a few thousand years. MANY of the laws in the Old Testament were taken DIRECTLY from Hammurabi's Code.

The Old Testament's legitamacy has been under serious scrutiny for a LONG time, seeing as it's existed in some form or another since 1500 B.C.E., but has only been finalized since about 500 B.C.E. It took a long time before all the Hebrew clans were able to come together and finally agree upon one version of the book. How is it that people can not only take it seriously, but also base an entire religion (Christianity and Islam) off of a book that is incredibly un-reliable?
 
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I myself have always wondered this. In the bible it never says anything about dinosaurs, so who created them? I asked someone who was very religious and he said that Dinosaurs were a hoax. Now everyone knows that Dinosaurs existed on this earth at one point, so i was just wondering what is the religious views on them? Where they same from, and stuff like that?



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The dinosaurs died off over 65 millions years before the bible was even written. Humans at that time had no idea that dinosaurs ever lived, as a majority of dinosaur fossils wern't discovered until the 19th century through technological means.

As for how god created earth in 6 days, each day must of represented a longer period of time. But yeah, main point is the dinosuars were long gone by the time the bible was written.
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Not to mention that Gilgamesh was the first written book, and it was written more than two thousand years before the first person called himself a Hebrew. The same civilization also wrote Hammurabi's Code, which is the first set of written laws, and these also pre-dated the Old Testament by a few thousand years. MANY of the laws in the Old Testament were taken DIRECTLY from Hammurabi's Code.

The Old Testament's legitamacy has been under serious scrutiny for a LONG time, seeing as it's existed in some form or another since 1500 B.C.E., but has only been finalized since about 500 B.C.E. It took a long time before all the Hebrew clans were able to come together and finally agree upon one version of the book. How is it that people can not only take it seriously, but also base an entire religion (Christianity and Islam) off of a book that is incredibly un-reliable?
Precisely.

People need to stop reading books and believing them (Da Vinci Code). It's a book, it's written to be convincing and compelling. It's not meant to be followed and worshipped.
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lol whoever said dinosaurs didn't exist is kinda missing the hardcore evidence in the ground
 
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For anyone who didnt know it Job mentions something called Leviathan, and it sounds very much like a fire breathing dragon. Regardless, there are millions of inseects and animals not mentioned in the bible, doesnt mean god didnt make any of them lol.
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I don't want to wade through these endless pages of bullsh.t from idiots on both sides of the argument, so I won't. I have a few things to say though.

The most common response (that I've heard) to explain the existence of fossils of dinosaurs is that the bones were put there by God as a test of our faith, and dinosaurs in fact never really existed. Despite this, we are able to practically recreate many dinosaur's lives based on their fossils. From the (approximate) age they died to what diseases they may have had. We have found traces of cancer in some dinosaurs.

As for you idiots who are saying dinosaurs could breathe fire..that is a physical impossibility. Animals could not sustain what is required to produce fire.

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As for how god created earth in 6 days, each day must of represented a longer period of time. But yeah, main point is the dinosuars were long gone by the time the bible was written.
Why would God allow millions of people to misinterpret the Bible by allowing the book to contain information that is completely false? Such a small detail could change a religion. Bullsh.t. The Bible is one of the only sources to your faith that you have, as far as guidelines to Christianity go. You have to play with what you are given, not make up your own rules.

Well guys, even though it says "You shall not murder" in the Ten Commandments, I think it really meant "you shall murder" instead. Keep putting forth excuses for the inaccuracy of the Bible, and soon enough you'll have something else entirely.
 
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