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an alligator is an dino he evolved like pikachu
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I have thought on einsteins theory of things traveling through time slower the faster they go. Now this would mean, that light probably, on its perspective plane, would take moments to traverse from where its coming to where its going. Its really not all that hard to understand if you just think that we see it as fast because to it we are incalcuably slow. I hve also thought on einsteins pondering of light in a plane. Supposedly, he was wondering, if you were on a plane going the speed of light, and there was a mirror in front of you, what would you see? Well theres really no answer to that without testing it. Because we dont know how light reacts at that speed, unless we are going it. Its like you have two people in a car, the one in the back throw something towards the front. That object is going faster in relation to the road then the car. Se we dont exactly know if light can be speeded up past its traveling time with that. I believe it is very well possible. So I think you would see yourself. But there is also the factor, that light reacts differently to us at that speed. But no matter what speed we are going, I think we will see the speed as normal, and others abnormal. Woops, back on topic here, light has nothing to do with dinosaurs. Time though, is generally constant as far as the earth goes and on a universal scale, so nothing should have changed the fossils time/speed. Now that I think about it, for the first time I see the relation between time and space, if only on a fundamental level. This is why I love science so much. . .

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Experiments have shown that light in a vacuum gives a constant speed, regardless of a moving observer. It's pretty much the most unintuitive thing ever, disregarding some quantum mechanics. If you're going 90% the speed of light and turn on a flashlight, you measure the light as going the speed of light. And observer that sees you traveling at 90% the speed of light measures the light as going the speed of light. Hurray for time dilation and relativity

Yeah, time passage relative to Earth is practically constant. But, if for some reason, you choose to record the time with respect to a point of reference orbiting a black hole, you could wind up with an interestingly skewed time-line

Science pwninates. It's frustrating to see people refute scientific claims due to religion. And in conclusion, XKCD rox0rz

Does anyone else find the juxtapositions of Darkness and Mister Miyagi's posts amusing.
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the way i look at it:

i view the seven-day creation story as a metaphor for a creation, which actually took millions of years (evolution). i'm sure dinosaurs were in there somewhere.
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Who created them? Who created the earth, and everything on the earth?






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Experiments have shown that light in a vacuum gives a constant speed, regardless of a moving observer. It's pretty much the most unintuitive thing ever, disregarding some quantum mechanics. If you're going 90% the speed of light and turn on a flashlight, you measure the light as going the speed of light. And observer that sees you traveling at 90% the speed of light measures the light as going the speed of light. Hurray for time dilation and relativity

Yeah, time passage relative to Earth is practically constant. But, if for some reason, you choose to record the time with respect to a point of reference orbiting a black hole, you could wind up with an interestingly skewed time-line

Science pwninates. It's frustrating to see people refute scientific claims due to religion. And in conclusion, XKCD rox0rz

Does anyone else find the juxtapositions of Darkness and Mister Miyagi's posts amusing.
People find it strange that deceleration is a form of acceleration, they find it impossible to believe that just because something seems different, maybe it is, or maybe it isnt. There are some hard facts in science, alot actually. But in physics, motion, speed, its all got to do with a referance point, there is absolutely no right answer. What speed am I going now? I am traveling the same speed as the galaxy, but not moving in this room. The thing I have learned about science is that you have to learn to accept and look at the absurd. Effect before cause, reality being reality by perspective. Thats why I ate people who base atheism on science.I am atheist, and I love science, but I respesct religion. But theres simply no proof. I dont believe in bigfoot, because one huge primate couldnt live here for that many years and not be discovered, I know youll talk about undiscovered species in the rainforest, but they live in inhabited areas, supposedly at least. Aliens, duh I believe in them. Somewhere out there it has to have happened a second time, for all we know we are the second. Or the trillionth! Science relies on hard facts to explain a flowing universe, and people have to learn how to wrap their minds around stuff like that, they have to learn to accept it. With acceptance, comes understanding. Perspective would seem to be how light is judged, because I have never heard of a light going faster when the device holding the light is going faster, but thats the key there isnt it? It isnt affected by inertia or motion.

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People find it strange that deceleration is a form of acceleration, they find it impossible to believe that just because something seems different, maybe it is, or maybe it isnt. There are some hard facts in science, alot actually. But in physics, motion, speed, its all got to do with a referance point, there is absolutely no right answer. What speed am I going now? I am traveling the same speed as the galaxy, but not moving in this room. The thing I have learned about science is that you have to learn to accept and look at the absurd. Effect before cause, reality being reality by perspective. Thats why I ate people who base atheism on science.I am atheist, and I love science, but I respesct religion. But theres simply no proof. I dont believe in bigfoot, because one huge primate couldnt live here for that many years and not be discovered, I know youll talk about undiscovered species in the rainforest, but they live in inhabited areas, supposedly at least. Aliens, duh I believe in them. Somewhere out there it has to have happened a second time, for all we know we are the second. Or the trillionth! Science relies on hard facts to explain a flowing universe, and people have to learn how to wrap their minds around stuff like that, they have to learn to accept it. With acceptance, comes understanding. Perspective would seem to be how light is judged, because I have never heard of a light going faster when the device holding the light is going faster, but thats the key there isnt it? It isnt affected by inertia or motion.

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My belief in G_d is based mainly on experience. I'm sure you can see the problems with that statement, it's an interesting story
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ok listen, dinosaurs have been carbon dated by scientists and they date as far back as 350 million years ago. the bible says that God created the earth in six days, and people were created on the sixth i think. so unless those days were actually millions of years, then dinosaurs did exist. but my theory is that (if you believe in God), that he placed their bones in the ground to test our faith
 
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ok listen, dinosaurs have been carbon dated by scientists and they date as far back as 350 million years ago. the bible says that God created the earth in six days, and people were created on the sixth i think. so unless those days were actually millions of years, then dinosaurs did exist. but my theory is that (if you believe in God), that he placed their bones in the ground to test our faith
Test our faith? So we should deny everything we know about carbon dating and science and logic altogether and believe in a God we can't see or feel or sense, for no good reason at all? Gee, that's very convincing...

A logical God would have no reason for us to worship Him. A true God would not care if somebody didn't believe in Him, because it is His fault in the first place to not show any evidence whatsoever to the believer. Plus, a true God would have no reason to burn someone in Hell for eternity for His own satisfaction. Hell is a useless act. That is a God not worth worshiping
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Why did this turn into a discussion of the Bible? I thought that this was a dinosaur thread.
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