Halo 3 Forum
Welcome, Unregistered!
 | Don't have an account? Register Now!
Search:  Advanced Search
Halo 3 Forum: The Biggest Halo 3 Forum
Why you should use x264 instead of wmv.
low strife
Knemo-schwine-aie-he-how
  #1 Default Why you should use x264 instead of wmv. 02-09-2009
 
low strife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Tech Support
Posts: 20,828

Send a message via AIM to low strife

source vs x264 vs wmv

View the full images to fully see the difference (tabbed browsing highly recommended here)





To download the videos (not including the 1GB raw source video) and all the screenshots in a .zip folder, click below.

Download
 
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links


Why you should use x264 instead of wmv.
TorrentX
Level 31
  #2 Default 02-09-2009
 
TorrentX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 2,205

Send a message via AIM to TorrentX

i started encoding in x264 for my latest project, im never going back!
 
Reply With Quote
Why you should use x264 instead of wmv.
low strife
Knemo-schwine-aie-he-how
  #3 Default 02-09-2009
 
low strife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Tech Support
Posts: 20,828

Send a message via AIM to low strife

Quote:
Originally Posted by TorrentX View Post
i started encoding in x264 for my latest project, im never going back!
The only downside is that it takes forf..kingever to render. 18 hours for my 11 minute 720P Crysis video...
__________________

↑↑Download all Montage Contest 2 Videos in one location here!↑↑

↓↓Download a massive collection of Halo videos here!↓↓

 
Reply With Quote
Why you should use x264 instead of wmv.
Phurion
Feel It.
  #4 Default 02-09-2009
 
Phurion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 8,797

Send a message via AIM to Phurion

Quote:
Originally Posted by low strife View Post
The only downside is that it takes forf..kingever to render. 18 hours for my 11 minute 720P Crysis video...
Personally, when I see a montage or video, I prefer the x264 than WMV.

But there are some other downsides-

If people dont have VLC Media Player, they wont be able to play the file, so theres a lost viewer right there.

Also, If you are using it to compress clips to edit(as opposed to using for the final cut of the video), when you edit with them, they will lag the program, extremely. I have had too much experience with this because I compressed all my clips to 264, because it was virtually no loss, but WAY less space. Later I found out that I would have to preload every single damn frame. Made editing for a few projects quite a b..ch.



But yeah, for the final export, I think 264 is the best bet.
__________________






AIM - a Phurion Film
 
Reply With Quote
Why you should use x264 instead of wmv.
low strife
Knemo-schwine-aie-he-how
  #5 Default 02-09-2009
 
low strife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Tech Support
Posts: 20,828

Send a message via AIM to low strife

Agreed. x264, because of how heavily it's compressed, has a very high CPU usage during playback. If I had to edit it, I would take the time to re-render it to a lossless format (probably huffyuv, or maybe something like largarth (SP)).

I save all my H2V clips in Huffyuv... 500-2GB a pop, and that adds up. Good thing I have 300GB free on that drive.
__________________

↑↑Download all Montage Contest 2 Videos in one location here!↑↑

↓↓Download a massive collection of Halo videos here!↓↓

 
Reply With Quote
Why you should use x264 instead of wmv.
ThaggleS
Level 50
  #6 Default 02-09-2009
 
ThaggleS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 9,924

Send a message via AIM to ThaggleS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phurion View Post
Personally, when I see a montage or video, I prefer the x264 than WMV.

But there are some other downsides-

If people dont have VLC Media Player, they wont be able to play the file, so theres a lost viewer right there.

Also, If you are using it to compress clips to edit(as opposed to using for the final cut of the video), when you edit with them, they will lag the program, extremely. I have had too much experience with this because I compressed all my clips to 264, because it was virtually no loss, but WAY less space. Later I found out that I would have to preload every single damn frame. Made editing for a few projects quite a b..ch.



But yeah, for the final export, I think 264 is the best bet.
Then .rar it up and include VLC Media Player or klite.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kblocker
You can't ban ThaggleS, I've already tried.

Looking for a FREE and addicting computer game? Check out this thread for information on one of my favorite online games.

"Time for a true display of skill!"
 
Reply With Quote
Why you should use x264 instead of wmv.
Phurion
Feel It.
  #7 Default 02-09-2009
 
Phurion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 8,797

Send a message via AIM to Phurion

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaggleS View Post
Then .rar it up and include VLC Media Player or klite.
Yeah. I have done that before, and you will still get complaints from people who dont know what a rar is.


I have some really good render settings for WMV, so I usually stick with those, but occasionally I use the 264.
__________________






AIM - a Phurion Film
 
Reply With Quote
Why you should use x264 instead of wmv.
low strife
Knemo-schwine-aie-he-how
  #8 Default 02-09-2009
 
low strife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Tech Support
Posts: 20,828

Send a message via AIM to low strife

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phurion View Post
Yeah. I have done that before, and you will still get complaints from people who dont know what a rar is.


I have some really good render settings for WMV, so I usually stick with those, but occasionally I use the 264.
Then use zip, like I did with this. Add it to a zip, have a folder named "if you can't play the video, then install this", and 99% of the complaints are gone.

In the future, I'm just going to do both. x264 takes so long to render, I may as well do a wmv render along with it. By the time I've rendered & uploaded the wmv, the x264 will probably only be 75% finished.
__________________

↑↑Download all Montage Contest 2 Videos in one location here!↑↑

↓↓Download a massive collection of Halo videos here!↓↓

 
Reply With Quote
Why you should use x264 instead of wmv.
Phurion
Feel It.
  #9 Default 02-09-2009
 
Phurion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Washington
Posts: 8,797

Send a message via AIM to Phurion

Quote:
Originally Posted by low strife View Post
Then use zip, like I did with this. Add it to a zip, have a folder named "if you can't play the video, then install this", and 99% of the complaints are gone.

In the future, I'm just going to do both. x264 takes so long to render, I may as well do a wmv render along with it. By the time I've rendered & uploaded the wmv, the x264 will probably only be 75% finished.
Damn


Maybe thats cuz its HD, because the 264s that I render dont take long at all.
__________________






AIM - a Phurion Film
 
Reply With Quote
Why you should use x264 instead of wmv.
ThaggleS
Level 50
  #10 Default 02-09-2009
 
ThaggleS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 9,924

Send a message via AIM to ThaggleS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phurion View Post
Yeah. I have done that before, and you will still get complaints from people who dont know what a rar is.


I have some really good render settings for WMV, so I usually stick with those, but occasionally I use the 264.
Then have Z or whoever posts the thread supply a link to winRAR or just zip it up!

Quote:
Originally Posted by low strife View Post
Then use zip, like I did with this. Add it to a zip, have a folder named "if you can't play the video, then install this", and 99% of the complaints are gone.

In the future, I'm just going to do both. x264 takes so long to render, I may as well do a wmv render along with it. By the time I've rendered & uploaded the wmv, the x264 will probably only be 75% finished.
He said zip it up and you could do that. But I disagree with the 99% of the complaints being gone since nobody has downloaded this file yet so nobody will complain. People will always complain.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kblocker
You can't ban ThaggleS, I've already tried.

Looking for a FREE and addicting computer game? Check out this thread for information on one of my favorite online games.

"Time for a true display of skill!"
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:40 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2 ©2009, Crawlability, Inc.
Microsoft, Bungie and Halo are trademarks of Microsoft Corporation.