abourtion is the killing of a un born chiled thus if it is un born it hasent been "Alive" to an extent. in certain circumstances i find they should be allowed but in others its just not lawfull circumstances that it should be alloud are rape victoms incest rape and date rapes ,anything else shouldent be legal

Originally Posted by NightFall666

abourtion is the killing of a un born chiled thus if it is un born it hasent been "Alive" to an extent. in certain circumstances i find they should be allowed but in others its just not lawfull circumstances that it should be alloud are rape victoms incest rape and date rapes ,anything else shouldent be legal

Lol, wut?

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

I can already tell that by your demeanor of constant assertion when you talk, you won't be liked around here.

Especially for asserting fallacious ideas to things that just aren't so.

You're giving your own definition to things of that nature in regard to abortion, you can't do that.

You're taking a literal meaning of murder and attaching it to a non-human thing.

Actually, I think I will be. I only came to the debate forum to debate, mister. I have no intentions of making someone else as lowly as I could be. You do, though, as I can see. Thanks for reminding me that I won't be liked by you. It really does help me sleep through the nights.

How is it non-human? I would LOVE to know. Do you even know what a human is .. ?

Hu-man;
1 : consisting of members of the family Hominidae.

Yes, a human. Sorry to burst your bubble, but a fetus is just as much in this specified group as you or me. Therefore, it is human. It's lack of full development does not make it any less human. If that were the case, you aren't fully human until you reach your highest age possibly, and we all know that that isn't true.

Thus, I am taking a meaning referring to the species, human, and attaching it to the concept of murder. Is this not a valid point?


IN OTHER POINTS.

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

You're seriously annoying as hell.

I believe this is considered spam? -.-

Originally Posted by General AI

You're really annoying.



Actually, what's really going on here is that I'm giving you my argument, and you're basically just saying "Well, it's my opinion" and basically hiding behind that. You've done no debating what so ever. Only stated your opinion and backed it up with small and clearly unacceptable translation for murder.



No, I'm pretty sure you misunderstood me. When I said some cells and tissue, I meant the fetus.



I just gave a definition which proved that abortion is not murder because it's not a human being. (Unless you call any type of killing murder, in which case you would be simply demonizing abortion by using technicalities to call it something evil).

And whether or not it's your opinion is irrelevant in this case. This is the debate forum. Everything is challenged.



Cool.

The third chart in wikipedia on world population at various times. Look and see the data for yourself.

BTW, you were the one who said the human death toll was in the trillions. The burden of proof obviously falls on you. To say that I should find evidence to the contrary is idiotic.

General .. I've been told this once before. However, my level is annoyance really doesn't matter to me in the minds of others. I am who I am. :]

And I suppose you're right. I should have carried such a burden, myself, shouldn't I.. ? Hmm. Okay, I will admit. You have defeated me.

But I have lost the battle. Not the war.

Originally Posted by Inconceivable

Actually, I think I will be. I only came to the debate forum to debate, mister. I have no intentions of making someone else as lowly as I could be. You do, though, as I can see. Thanks for reminding me that I won't be liked by you. It really does help me sleep through the nights.

How is it non-human? I would LOVE to know. Do you even know what a human is .. ?

Hu-man;
1 : consisting of members of the family Hominidae.

Yes, a human. Sorry to burst your bubble, but a fetus is just as much in this specified group as you or me. Therefore, it is human. It's lack of full development does not make it any less human. If that were the case, you aren't fully human until you reach your highest age possibly, and we all know that that isn't true.

Thus, I am taking a meaning referring to the species, human, and attaching it to the concept of murder. Is this not a valid point?


IN OTHER POINTS.



I believe this is considered spam? -.-

Go troll somewhere else.

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

Go troll somewhere else.

I do believe that we are getting a tad off topic, here. It seems as though I have gotten you mad, however. For this, I would be honoured if you were to accept my apology.

Though, I doubt such things are possible from beings as insolent as yourself.

However, I alas, did not come here to insult. You haven't stated your counter-argument against any of mine on the matter of abortion for quite some time, now.

Originally Posted by I bloodypingu I

Its pretty easy. Type in "How many people have lived on earth" into google. I havent seen a result thats 1 trillion yet, so how you got that number is beyond me.

I do believe you are correct. Terribly sorry. I should have done a bit more research before stating anything invalid or even contradictory to my own opinion. Ty. <3

Originally Posted by Inconceivable

I do believe that we are getting a tad off topic, here. It seems as though I have gotten you mad, however. For this, I would be honoured if you were to accept my apology.

Though, I doubt such things are possible from beings as insolent as yourself.

However, I alas, did not come here to insult. You haven't stated your counter-argument against any of mine on the matter of abortion for quite some time, now.

I already did. Let me redo it.

Originally Posted by Inconceivable

Actually, I think I will be.

I'm noticing a trend of you being ignorant. Haven't you seen the responses?

Change your dialogue dude lol.

I only came to the debate forum to debate, mister.

You haven't done much of that though.

I have no intentions of making someone else as lowly as I could be.

Well, you've been doing it.

You do, though, as I can see.

Nice quip; maybe you could recall that you began talking down to everyone and ignoring the argument at hand by taking such a technical approach to the situation, and not a philosophical one.

Thanks for reminding me that I won't be liked by you. It really does help me sleep through the nights.

I'm not your buddy, guy.

How is it non-human? I would LOVE to know. Do you even know what a human is .. ?

Hu-man;
1 : consisting of members of the family Hominidae.

Yes, a human. Sorry to burst your bubble, but a fetus is just as much in this specified group as you or me. Therefore, it is human. It's lack of full development does not make it any less human. If that were the case, you aren't fully human until you reach your highest age possibly, and we all know that that isn't true.

My point above.

Even more, that's a ad hominem.

Thus, I am taking a meaning referring to the species, human, and attaching it to the concept of murder. Is this not a valid point?

An irrelevant attachment.

General .. I've been told multiple times before. However, my level is annoyance really doesn't matter to me in the minds of others. I am who I am. :]

Sweet arrogance.

What happened to this?

Originally Posted by Inconceivable

Actually, I think I will be.

I'll repost:

You're giving your own definition to things(or even a literal definition) of that nature in regard to abortion, you can't do that.

You're taking a literal meaning of murder and attaching it to a non-human thing. It's a philosophical discussion.

This was also presented by tom and others before me, but you dodged their arguments.

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

I'm not your buddy, guy.

I'm not your guy, friend.




Sorry, I couldn't resist. (Even though the order is off)

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

I already did. Let me redo it.

Mmkay.

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

I'm noticing a trend of you being ignorant. Haven't you seen the responses?

Yes, I have. By the way, I think I have knowledge of the subject, so if you please, you may want to rephrase that. Yes, however, I have. General wasn't even this bad. He took the time to actually validate his point. All you've been doing is trying to contradict insults and make insults of your own.

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

Change your dialogue.

Change yours.

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

You haven't done much of that.

I believe I have. Only, it seems like when I try to state my side of the argument, you counter-argue by calling names and/or insulting. That's not what debating is, Borat.

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

Well, you've been doing it.

*Shrugs*

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

You do, though, as I can see.

Interesting argument?

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

Nice quip; maybe you could recall that you began talking down to everyone and ignoring the argument at hand by taking such a technical approach to the situation, and not a philosophical one.

No, not really. I began challenging their arguments with arguments of my own. Is that not what debating is? Does it matter if I go technical, philosophical, or logically? Either way, it helps me state my argument on Abortion.

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

I'm not your buddy, guy.

I'm started to think that I'd like not having it any other way.

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

My point above.

Still don't see.

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

An irrelevant attachment.

Learn your definitions. Theres a large different between irrelevant and invalid. I believe it is a relevant attachment, seeing as it goes hand in hand, right? Well, obviously, to me, and not to you. Goodjob, we've started debating, finally.

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

Sweet arrogance.

Sweet spam.

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

What happened to this?

?

Originally Posted by BORAT IS FOLLY

I'll repost:

You're giving your own definition to things(or even a literal definition) of that nature in regard to abortion, you can't do that.

You're taking a literal meaning of murder and attaching it to a non-human thing. It's a philosophical discussion.

This was also presented by tom and others before me, but you dodged their arguments.

No, I didn't. When I came to the thread, I did not pertain to any of your arguments, because I was not yet in them. I simply stated my argument, and began coming attached to other, different arguments. I read them all, though. :]

Really, though, every 10 of your post, it seems as though one only one of them are on topic. Please, redirect your arguments to the debate at hand.

Originally Posted by Inconceivable

Mmkay.

Yes, I have. By the way, I think I have knowledge of the subject, so if you please, you may want to rephrase that. Yes, however, I have. General wasn't even this bad. He took the time to actually validate his point. All you've been doing is trying to contradict insults and make insults of your own.

Alrighty then, since I can't superimpose in your eyeballs what I'm doing, I'll drop it.

Change yours.

Lol, you haven't even been here.

Nuh uh, you do ettttt.

I believe I have. Only, it seems like when I try to state my side of the argument, you counter-argue by calling names and/or insulting. That's not what debating is, Borat.

That's a lie, stop dragging from the issue. I stated my point multiple times.

No, not really. I began challenging their arguments with arguments of my own. Is that not what debating is? Does it matter if I go technical, philosophical, or logically? Either way, it helps me state my argument on Abortion.

Obviously, that doesn't mean you'll be making a rational or logical argument.

Everything else you said was utterly rediculous.

Going back and forth with you is extremely tiring, you just say the same thing back, excellent retorts.

You haven't refuted anything, you're just not not being relevant.

You even managed to misdirect the argument and skirt my refutes. I called an ad hominem upon other things and you didn't address them.

But I assume you'll somehow respond to this with something utterly stupid.

Originally Posted by Inconceivable

. It doesn't matter if any of the cells are conscious or not.

OK, so by this definition, removing and disposing of cancer cells is murder. Also, every time somebody washes their hands, the cells sloughed off are being "murdered."