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Personally, I couldn't give a beep what people do. It's there lives, so let them marry who they want. It shouldn't be up to someone else.
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I wouldn't say women have better maternal instincts. I think we're seen that way only because we are more in-tuned with it, having a life growing inside of you does that.


http://www.proactivechange.com/life/...l-instinct.htm
Women seem to have the correct instincts from birth, though. As in, you see toddler girls trying to mimic mums by buying those dolls, and I've seen older sisters playing a motherly role for younger siblings.
I'm kinda biased on the topic because I have a single mum and my dad was a complete ass, though lol.

I'm not saying men cannot do it, but it would take more practice and help. I'm sure kids turn out fine most of the time with single dads, but I imagine it's a very bumpy road along the way.
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Women seem to have the correct instincts from birth, though. As in, you see toddler girls trying to mimic mums by buying those dolls, and I've seen older sisters playing a motherly role for younger siblings.
I'm kinda biased on the topic because I have a single mum and my dad was a complete ass, though lol.

I'm not saying men cannot do it, but it would take more practice and help. I'm sure kids turn out fine most of the time with single dads, but I imagine it's a very bumpy road along the way.
I know me personally, before my daughter was born I was completely scared I didn't know what to do.... It does take a bit of time to bond completely, but it all came really natural to me.

All of that doesn't hold a candle to my wife, she's amazing w/ her.

On the topic of gay parents, my Uncle is gay. If anything ever happened to my wife and me, and our parents weren't around... My uncle would be the person I would like to take care of my daughter. He's an awesome person, his partner is an awesome person... No nicer people I have ever meant in my life, and they do an awesome job when watching my daughter.

The only drawback, they are republicans (wtf?)
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I know me personally, before my daughter was born I was completely scared I didn't know what to do.... It does take a bit of time to bond completely, but it all came really natural to me.

All of that doesn't hold a candle to my wife, she's amazing w/ her.

On the topic of gay parents, my Uncle is gay. If anything ever happened to my wife and me, and our parents weren't around... My uncle would be the person I would like to take care of my daughter. He's an awesome person, his partner is an awesome person... No nicer people I have ever meant in my life, and they do an awesome job when watching my daughter.

The only drawback, they are republicans (wtf?)
Once upon a time, Republicans stood for greater personal liberty. Times have changed, however.
 
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Once upon a time, Republicans stood for greater personal liberty. Times have changed, however.
Yeah, it's weird how the Democrats used to be the "white men's party" and the Republicans started out as an abolitionist party.
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Legalizing same sex marriage would contradict evidence which shows a monogamous, heterosexual marriage is the best family setting for children. Marriage between a man and a woman is the ideal family unit promoting procreation and insures the child receives the benefits of being raised by a father and a mother. You can research further to see the attributes shown to be learned by each gender through parenting.

The unfortunate side effects of homosexuality: men who engage in sodomy before the age of 25 have a 50% chance of living to 65. The median death age is 42, and 39 if you have AIDS. Less than 2% of homosexual males live to the age of 65. :_(
95% of boys sexually abused for pornography, trafficking, and prostitution are abused by homosexual males. If you have some fun with numbers by assuming 2% of the USA's population it ends up that 1 of 20 homosexual males are child molesters compared to 1 of 490 heterosexual male child molesters.
Homosexuals make up about 1-2% of the US population however they account for 60% of syphilis cases, 4% of gonorrhea cases, and 17% of all hospital visits. Also 42% of all new HIV cases are caused by homosexual men.
Statistics can be played with to show anything from my experience but for a high school report you need facts and examples. I'd summarize this by saying it's an unhealthy lifestyle and if the government allowed marriage between two homosexuals they would be approving of this behavior.

Religion can be a paragraph if you want to use that. I'm not sure which religions are against it but I think judeo-christians and Mormons will not allow it. Islam seems to have very conservative ideas about relationships so the top few religions would be a safe bet to use.



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R.S Hogg, et al./ "Modeling the Impact of HIV Disease on Mortality in Gay and Bisexual Men," International Journal of Epidermiology, vol 26,1997

Paul Cameron, Ph.D., et all., "The longevity of Homosexuals: Before and After the AIDS Epidemic," Omega: Journal of Death and Dying

Alan P. Bell and Martin S Weinberg, Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978).

Lawrence Corey and King K Holmes, "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men," New England Journal of Medicine, Vol. 302..

Richard J Estes Ph.D et all., "The commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children in the US, Canada and Mexico" University of Pennsylvania, Center for the study of youth policy 10 September 2001

Paul Cameron, Ph.D et all., "Child Molestation and Homosexuality" Psychological Reports

Karla Jay and Allen Young, The Gay Report: Lesbians and Gay Men Speak Out about Sexual Experiences and Lifestyles (New York: Summit Books) p 275

"Gay Power, Gay Politics" CBS Reports, CBS News, New York, NY

United States Congressional Record 29 June 89

a few more I dont feel like listing nobody cares tbh
Good luck with your essay/presentation/school-related report (I assume).
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I wouldn't say women have better maternal instincts. I think we're seen that way only because we are more in-tuned with it, having a life growing inside of you does that.


http://www.proactivechange.com/life/...l-instinct.htm
So then like you said, link aside, you have better maternal instincts compared to men because you are more intune with it.
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Women seem to have the correct instincts from birth, though. As in, you see toddler girls trying to mimic mums by buying those dolls, and I've seen older sisters playing a motherly role for younger siblings.
Chalk that up to social conditioning.
 
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Women have better maternal instincts than men was the point I'm trying to make. Quit dancing around my posts, trying to make me look like an idiot.
First of all: Gender roles are socially and culturally constructed and permeated.

Second of all: You can dance when you want to. You can leave your friend behind. And if your friends don't dance and if they don't dance then they're no friends of mine.
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i believe that a child should grow up with a mother and father, so same sex marriage should be legal cept they just cant adopt any children or plain have any.
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