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I don't really care about same sex marriages, but two men adopting a kid would seriously cause problems for the kid as he grows up. I am against that.
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I don't really care about same sex marriages, but two men adopting a kid would seriously cause problems for the kid as he grows up. I am against that.
That's not true at all. Why would you think that?
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I don't really care about same sex marriages, but two men adopting a kid would seriously cause problems for the kid as he grows up. I am against that.
How would you know this?
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"I think they'll be more tolerant, more flexible in terms of gender conformity," said Stacey, who now teaches at New York University. "The boys may be less aggressive. There's some indication the girls will have a wider array of career aspirations."

Charlotte J. Patterson, a professor of psychology at the University of Virginia and a prominent researcher in the field, has found that the purposefulness inherent in same-sex parenting tends to counter any societal disadvantages. "I think what we're seeing overall is pretty positive adjustment on the part of these kids," she said. "What that suggests, I think, is that we may have overrated the role of gender in parenting in our theoretical notions about these matters."
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How would you know this?
I know it's subjective, but IMO, it would cause troubles like bullying, confusion, arguments as the kid gets older, and other small things like application form problems, unnatural upbringing (I think that there should be some form of motherly role; I don't think any kid should have a father as a single parent unless the mother is completely crazy or there is no other alternative)

I'm not saying all gay parents would be terrible parents, but I just don't think it'd work. My [single] mum and I were talking about this the other day.
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Though the early consensus is that they do not, even the investigators acknowledge the field is too young, the numbers too few, the variables too many and the research too values-laden to qualify as definitive.
It's still subjective. I know kids (with heterosexual parents) who are hard working and conscientious, but there again, I know kids (with heterosexual parents) who are school drop-outs with no ambitions.

I may be completely wrong about this whole thing, however, I don't think those experiments could be reliable and, by the sounds of it, the experimenters don't, either.
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That was in 2006, I could have found a better article if I tried.

I've seen a special on one of Rosie's lesbian cruises. I didn't see anything wrong with their children. The children did all have the same fear that they were scared that something would happens to their parents-- which can be stopped.

I don't see the difference from a lesbian couple and a heterosexual couple. They still love and parent the exact same.
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That was in 2006, I could have found a better article if I tried.

I've seen a special on one of Rosie's lesbian cruises. I didn't see anything wrong with their children. The children did all have the same fear that they were scared that something would happens to their parents-- which can be stopped.

I don't see the difference from a lesbian couple and a heterosexual couple. They still love and parent the exact same.
I imagine lesbian parents wouldn't be bad, but the thought of two guys raising a child doesn't seem right (not in a homophobic sense). Also (this may be a very large generalization), from what I've seen, gay men tend to not stick with their partners for long at all.

My brother is gay BTW.
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I imagine lesbian parents wouldn't be bad, but the thought of two guys raising a child doesn't seem right (not in a homophobic sense). Also (this may be a very large generalization), from what I've seen, gay men tend to not stick with their partners for long at all.

My brother is gay BTW.
Do you not want your brother to ever have a chance in being a parent-- or do you think he'll not be the same as a straight dad? I wouldn't want anyone adopting a kid unless their relationship was solid, gay or straight. I doubt any person would adopt a kid if they didn't know where their future was going.

I only know of one gay MAN (I know a lot of stupid boys), and he's been with his life partner for over 30+ years-- no children or adoptive children yet.
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Wait. Someone actually argued against it?

Wow.
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