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I agree with you completely.
thank you.

glad somebody does.

imagine a kid that tells there friends that they have two dads or moms. they will be social outcasts or something.
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hmmnn... lets see

man + women = right and normal.

man +man =
..........or............ both equel f.ck up epic failure
women + women =

i totaly disagree with homo sexuals its just not right.

a child deserves a mother and a father that are functional together.

and i think all homosexuals should go to hell.
which they will.
Elaborate on why it isn't right.

Why should homosexuals go to hell?

And please, show proof you have that a 'hell' exists. Don't say "the Bible," either.
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*May lead to marriages to other things in society

i. Same sex marriage would be an opening to other types of marriages such as bestial, where a man or woman would marry an animal. People who want to commit bestial marriages would push to get it legalized as same sex marriage is getting pushed to be legalized. This as a society is not a very intelligent thing because it would lead to the downfall of the American society as we know it today.

ii. Gay rights activists claim that these marriages should be allowed because it doesn't hurt anyone, but it could start a chain reaction that destroys the whole idea of marriage. If someone wants to marry his dog, why shouldn't he be able to? What if someone wants to marry their brother or parent? What if someone wants to marry their blow-up doll or have 10 wives? Unless we develop some firm definition of what a marriage is, the options are endless. If these options sound absurd, remember that all it takes is a few activist judges to use the statute to open the door. It doesn't matter if 95 percent of the population disagrees with the policy; one judge can interpret the case the way he or she wants and use the doctrine of stare decisis to impose a law on everyone. Do you remember how two judges in California recently declared the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional? If the decision hadn't been overturned, it would have prevented millions of children from being able to say the pledge every morning, despite the fact that 95+ percent of Americans disagreed with the decision.
Bestiality. Polygamy. Incest. Weird, kinky masturbation.

Get over it. There are worse things out there.

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Children need a father and mother to survive

i. In today’s society a child is usually raised by its mother and father. Promoting gay couples and marriages would help increase the adoption rate for kids who are being adopted by gay couples. As the rate of adoption by a gay couple increases, the children of tomorrow will lack the traits of both male and female parents, thus creating a tremendous decline in society. In nature it is natural for a child to acquire these traits to survive and better there knowledge of human life.

ii. Most states allow single gays and lesbians to adopt children, but only 11 out of the 50 states actually allow two same-sex parents to adopt. This showing that it is not supported to be a healthy stature for the children.
Kids need adopting. I want to see a psychological study saying that Gay/Lesbian raised children are mentally unstable compared to Straight raised children, or, better yet, not-adopted children. That would be a good study.

Let me address the "Lack traits of male and female" point.

This means NOTHING! They will just know more of one side than the other. If this were true, then not-adopted children would not have sufficient knowledge of human emotion or human life. :P Lawlz, I just thought of something. The not-adopted children would be more inclined towards a Nun's emotional process and not people in the rest of society.

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*In nature it takes a man and a woman to make a baby so by nature gay marriage isn’t natural

i. As proven as a fact it takes a both male and female to make a child. So by complete and absolute nature it is not fit at all for a man and a man or a woman and a woman to have a child of their own. Gay marriage then gets described as not natural and wrong due to the facts of needing a female and male to have a child.

ii. This argument, often encoded in the very name of sodomy statutes ("crime against nature"), betrays a considerable ignorance of behavior in the animal kingdom. The fact is that among the approximately 1500 animal species whose behavior has been extensively studied, homosexual behavior in animals has been described in at least 450 of those species. It runs the gamut, too, ranging from occasional displays of affection to life-long pair bonding including sex and even adopting and raising orphans, going so far as the rejection by force of potential heterosexual partners, even when in heat. The reality is that it is so common that it begs an explanation, and socio-biologists have proposed a wide variety of explanations to account for it. The fact that it is so common also means that it clearly has evolutionary significance, which applies as much to humans as it does to other animal species.
I missed something here. That second part PROVES that Same-Sex pairing is fine in the rest of nature.

I think they misphrased "Crime Against Nature" and should've named it "Crime Against Society." :/ Ignorance just pushes the rock up the hill, it seems. Society is such a failure right now, as it is, that I think going against it really isn't a bad idea.

The Romans and Greeks evolved in thought, tradition and society. Why can't we?

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Gay marriage is considered a sin in some religions

i. In many religions today gay marriage is considered a sin and a disease. People who are gay are sinners who need redemption from Jesus Christ. So as a religion stand point it is not acceptable to the society to marry a man and a woman.

ii. Virtually every religion in the world, including the major ones in this country, consider homosexuality unacceptable. It is offensive and a swipe to the religious freedom of the majority to have to recognize a relationship they consider sinful. The legal system in the United States evolved out of the laws contained in the Bible. We shouldn't go even farther to tear down those laws.
Why not? Why not tear down those laws that came from a bigot-ful, war mongering and homophobic god?

Religion and politics should not cross. EVER! If you don't like to be in a FREE country with FREEdoms that don't agree with your hateful deity, then get out. Leave. I can relate. I don't want to be here, but that's beside the fact that it is being piggyback rided by Religion, and many, many of it.

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Gay marriage is against tradition

i. In the world today marriage is a strict tradition between a man and a woman only. Not only would promoting gay marriage corrupt our marriage system but it would break the tradition as followed by many people today.

ii. The 50 percent divorce rate has already weakened the definition of marriage. We shouldn't be taking further steps to define what marriage is. A law allowing gay marriage would increase the number of joke or non-serious marriages, such as a couple of friends who want to save on taxes. Marriage is the most sacred institution in this country, and every society considers it the joining of a man and a woman. It makes biological sense since only a man and woman can pro-create.


iii. Studies show that homosexuals, for a variety of reasons, have life expectancies of approximately 20 years less than the general population. Just like a lifestyle of smoking, drinking, etc., unhealthy lifestyles should be discouraged.

iv. The building blocks of our society and the thing that makes it strong is the traditional family of man, woman, and children. It is what has sustained us through two world wars, a great depression, and numerous other challenges over the centuries. While friends & lovers come and go, your family is always there. The main reason our culture and values have started to crumble is the weakening of families. Introducing another form of "family" would only make the situation worse.
I'm not even going to read the points for this.

Tradition?!!??!?!?!? As if that is always going to be good.

We've had the tradition of getting really retarded leaders for this country the past couple terms.

Change is needed in ALL THINGS! Without change, evolution of thought or emotion can not and WILL NOT occur.

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*Gay marriage will decrease the economy

i. A huge defiance of gay marriage is brought about in the discussion of how our economy would adapt to gay marriage. As gay marriage is not only seen as a disgrace to human society it would actually end up hurting Americans financially. The more gay marriages there are the more in debt the economy will become as along with gay marriages the couples would be entitled to social security as well as tax cuts. Gay marriage is not only making our economy more in debt but it may very well make it fall in a great depression again. Gay marriage can’t be seen as good when it makes others pay more for gay married couple’s benefits.

ii. How about the impact on Social Security if there are millions of new dependents that will be entitled to survivor benefits? It will amount to billions of dollars on an already overburdened system. And how about the cost to American businesses? Unproductive costs mean fewer jobs for those who need them. Are state and municipal governments to be required to raise taxes substantially to provide health insurance and other benefits to millions of new "spouses and other dependents"?
Don't give us 'special benefits' then. I'm sure someone went out of his/her way to be a d.ck and got us more benefits than a Straight couple, but do we NEED them? No. Maybe if our house gets burned down by the religious groups that are protesting against us(over dramatic. Won't happen again. :P)

This is how we evolve. Get over it.

Slavery was traditional and helped EVERYONE'S economy while it was used. Do you want to back track our society when we're on a roll?

From xxxx B.C. to, what was it? 1850 A.D.? Yeah. It took us that long to get over slavery. Want to sit down for the next few thousand years debating over this till your mind finally realizes that it isn't worth the fight?

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hmmnn... lets see

man + women = right and normal.

man +man =
..........or............ both equel f.ck up epic failure
women + women =

i totaly disagree with homo sexuals its just not right.

a child deserves a mother and a father that are functional together.

and i think all homosexuals should go to hell.
which they will.
huh, i never thought of it that way.
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Originally Posted by defiler15 View Post
hmmnn... lets see

man + women = right and normal.

man +man =
..........or............ both equel f.ck up epic failure
women + women =

i totaly disagree with homo sexuals its just not right.

a child deserves a mother and a father that are functional together.

and i think all homosexuals should go to hell.
which they will.
Lmfao, great post.

Have you ever considered that God may have created homosexuals? He made homosexual flies, anyway. Or maybe, just maybe, that there is no hell.

Gays don't choose to be gay. FACT. They've all said so themselves.
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thank you.

glad somebody does.

imagine a kid that tells there friends that they have two dads or moms. they will be social outcasts or something.
If I EVER found out that my friend had two moms, I'd kick his f..king ass. True dat.

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Lmfao, great post.

Have you ever considered that God may have created homosexuals? He made homosexual flies, anyway. Or maybe, just maybe, that there is no hell.

Gays don't choose to be gay. FACT. They've all said so themselves.
This is what happens when you tell that to Christians:
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i do understand why they turn gay! cuz the devil wants 2 destroy mankind so he creates a gene and implants it in ppl so they can think wat they are doin is rite! God wants mankind 2 prosper and multiply! but once again Lucifer has 2 find ways 2 stop that from happening so he creates these distractions and ways! u will understand later in life and if not when ur at judgement day!
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thank you.

glad somebody does.

imagine a kid that tells there friends that they have two dads or moms. they will be social outcasts or something.


I wish I could super impose that on your computer monitor for eternity.
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hmmnn... lets see

man + women = right and normal.

man +man =
..........or............ both equel f.ck up epic failure
women + women =

i totaly disagree with homo sexuals its just not right.

a child deserves a mother and a father that are functional together.

and i think all homosexuals should go to hell.
which they will.
Its not right cuz the bible says so.
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