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My question is why aren't we worrying about more important things? Same sex relationships affect none of those who are not homosexual. At this point this debate is laughable at the very least.
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My question is why aren't we worrying about more important things? Same sex relationships affect none of those who are not homosexual. At this point this debate is laughable at the very least.
its for a classroom debate and of course i got picked to go against it when in fact i could care less like you said
 
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its for a classroom debate and of course i got picked to go against it when in fact i could care less like you said
Interesting and of course this is the public school system so you were most likely not allowed to ask for another subject to debate.
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There's really no reason that gays should be deprived of the same privileges that accompany the right of being married, but just for the sake of vanity and tradition that I oppose the word marriage being used.
 
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its for a classroom debate and of course i got picked to go against it when in fact i could care less like you said
lol. using H3F for a class assignment. great idea.



back on topic; love is love man. nothing wrong with same sex marriage.
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seriously i dont see whats wrong with it let them marry each other how does it harm you in anyway? BTW i im athiest.
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Common Law should be implemented again. If it doesn't effect you, f..k off.

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Why do those against same-sex marriage seem to not be able to comprehend that these people will be together regardless of whether they are allowed to legally marry or not?

All this does is give them the same rights as anyone else. It's not as if they're going to go "Oh wellz, I guess if we can't be legally married we shouldn't waste our time being gay anymore."
 
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gay marriage would raise taxes
 
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Personally, I don't think there is a single good argument against same sex marriage, but good luck anyways
Some argue that if we don't like gay marriage - then we should just not participate in it. Don't marry a gay! They say it won’t affect us. Well maybe... maybe not. Maybe I won’t live long enough to see the results of it. But this is about much more than just any individual person. This is about marriage. And marriage is about family. And family is about raising children.

Children weren’t meant to be raised by two male or two female sex partners. It’s pretty obvious they were meant to be raised by a mom and a dad. Certainly biologically speaking, nature is screaming at us "YOU NEED A MAN AND A WOMAN TO MAKE A CHILD"! But now thanks to the California Supreme Court we have society saying it doesn’t matter who raises children. AND most people, including conservatives aren't confident enough in their ability to explain why it's a bad idea to put up a fight!

So, let me tell you why it's a bad idea.

If 1% of the children are raised by two moms or two dads... then maybe they're right - maybe we won't see too much damage from that. But if it increases . which of course it will now that it has the law's imprimatur . at some point a society where most children aren’t raised by two opposite-sex parents will deteriorate. And we’ve seen that very thing in the black community where a majority of children haven't had a dad . for the last two or three generations. And it’s been devastating to the black community. And it has weakened the country as a whole.

We just don’t have enough experience with what two dads or two moms will do to a community to allow 4 judges to overturn thousands of years of human experience that has led to the best and healthiest way we know to raise children.

So not only do I have something to fear . but YOU do too! All of us do.

Traditional families didn’t come about because some anti-gay bigot sat up somewhere and said “let’s come up with a family structure that will exclude gays.” No! Today’s traditional family developed from thousands of years of human experimentation with a variety of ways to run a society and raise families. We didn’t get here by accident. And for four people to think they can decide for all of society to overturn those thousands of years of human learning is absolutely absurd.

Can you imagine a society where a large portion of children are brought up with two gay dads and taught that the type of promiscuity that is rampant in the gay male community is normal! That would wreak the same kind of havoc on society that we've seen from the male promiscuity that runs rampant in the black community where it is quite normal and where so many black children were raised with only one parent. Imagine adding millions of new people to the roles of those who don't finish school. Imagine adding to the roles of those who go around "making babies" but don't stay around to take care of them.

A case can be made that this won't be the result of legalized gay marriage. But, it's only a speculative case. We don't know. Because we've never tried it before. But there's a reason the type of family structure we have today evolved out of human experience. And it had nothing to do with trying to hurt gays.

Humans are pretty good at discarding what doesn't work and keeping what does. This is the reason why we have opposite-sex-parent families. Not only is that the most obvious and natural way to structure a family, but it has proven to be an incredibly successful structure from which to raise mentally healthy, happy, secure and stable children.
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