Originally Posted by NiceGuy

Oh, on a maybe double post, I didn't dignify your statement about looking at things philosophically instead of realisitcally because that would've taken an entire different thread, pages of me scolding you for blatantly disregarding the foundations of all knowledge, and it would've gotten really off topic.

edit: I will, however, just toss this out there. You should realize that the animal rights movements and environmental ethics movements that started in the early 70s with the Sierra Club were started by environmental philosophers and philosophies. So this whole environmental concern you see is a product of environmental philosophy shedding light on the issue.

Don't you have some pot to smoke?

Edit: It doesn't matter what started it, how is that relevant to anything
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THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GLOBAL WARMING, f.ckASS.
IT HAS TO DO WITH THE COAL/OIL RESERVES DEPLETING.

It's all revolves around the same thing and don't b..ch at me with those caplocks or I'll cry.

I don't smoke pot.

Originally Posted by NiceGuy

I don't smoke pot.

Judging by your severely activist/liberal comments I connected the stereotype, (your avatar and sig don't help).

Originally Posted by Hit U First

Judging by your severely activist/liberal comments I connected the stereotype, (your avatar and sig don't help).

Yeah, I get it a lot.

But I'm not an activist. I said that a few times. Stereotypes are generalized ignorance.

Originally Posted by NiceGuy

K. For someone educated in economics you're missing the point that people can't afford to do both. The poverty rate is huge, our economy is crashing, but sh.t keeps getting more expensive. The general populace can't afford to invest in other forms of energy while having to pay for the current forms of energy being used that are necessary for their well being/living.

I'm sure that the people this was intended for, TM22 and ASHtre, can afford to invest some money.

Like I said, this wasn't made to argue with people about the economy or about the environment, but rather at specific individual's (who use that sig) hypocrisy.

But we can't stop spending money on products such as GAS to ruin oil companies and create room for the development and rise in alternative energy source companies. You said yourself a car is necessary in America.

Right, so we need to start conserving so we can invest.
For example, drive hybrids. Or if you can't afford that, use public transport like you said.

All while investing in alternative sources.

No I'm in his class, duh. I'm regurgitating what he's teaching me to you; so you're actually calling him ignorant, not me.

I'm not saying you're ignorant in this subject; in fact, I never did.

If I told you my drama teacher won the Lifetime Achievement Award for acting, that doesn't make me a great actor.

And you left the thread open for others to make comments to your original post. That's where I came in.

You went off-topic in the first reply of the thread, congrats?
This thread, once again, was made for ASHtre and TM22. As well as other people using those signatures that do nothing to contribute to the cause.

sh.t I feel like broken a record player.

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I can do it longer

I picked blane. Cry about it.

O NO MY MATURITIS IS ACTIN UP LAWLS

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Where am I lacking here? Sociology? Economics? Socioeconomics? Please enlighten me.

No, you lack in other fields (physics? perhaps math even?).
What I was saying there had nothing to do with this subject, just that you feel like you have to cover up for your ignorance in something else.
Are you a perfectionist? Or do you have OCD?

Perhaps even just having a high IQ makes you feel like you have to always be right (if so, get some counseling)? Or did your parents never tell you, "You're right honey!" so now you must go around trying to be right all the time?

I don't know, just making an inference.

I know. That's why I'm trying to keep you from doing it. I care for your well being.

Everything I've said has been realistic; give me an example of where I'm being unrealistic?
Because I have a hard time criticizing myself, I probably skipped over it somewhere(?).

I didn't say contribute, I say support.

My OP is about contribution, not support.

You posting ironic things and me pointing it out isn't degrading. You're just pulling at straws.

Never heard of that expression before, but alright.

Nothing I've said has been ironic other than an honest mistake in confusing yours and davo's majors.

Maybe not in sub-urbs, where parents buy their children cars, but in lots of urban and city areas there is reliable and affordable public transportation.

I agree, but you still see traffic jams in those places, due to everyday people driving.

I'll walk anything that's within a three hour's walk. And yeah, living in Missouri does explain a bit, like you not really knowing much about public transportation in big city and urban areas.

I was born and raised in Nashville, so I know a lot about public transportation and urban areas. I actually lived in an apartment with my mom in downtown Nashville and I had to ride public bus systems with her to get groceries.
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How about by reducing the emissions significantly? You don't see the benefit in public transportation? Are you f.cking serious?

I NEVER SAID THAT, I just said it only delays the inevitable.
Eventually we will run out of oil supplies regardless of how many people drive.
If only one person drives for the rest of time, it will still eventually run out...

We have. We know the uses of alternative energy sources; they're not made available because we are a capitalist economy and the fossil fuel corporations have a stranglehold on the economy and the government (via politicians).

BARACK OBAMA 2008!

That was a joke. I understand that politicians sell out to personal interest groups and lobbyists. That's why, unless we get a lot of money and demand put forth into finding alternative energy sources, it will stay this way.

Originally Posted by NiceGuy

Yeah, I get it a lot.

But I'm not an activist. I said that a few times. Stereotypes are generalized ignorance.

Of course I didn't mean it, it was a simple joke don't take it offensively, I don't even know why we're discussing it.

Most activists claim that they aren't.

Originally Posted by Hit U First

Don't you have some pot to smoke?
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It's all revolves around the same thing and don't b..ch at me with those caplocks or I'll cry.

That first thing to NG was plain stupid. Even if he did smoke pot, that's completely irrelevant to anything being discussed in this thread.

And I lol'd at the reply to me

Right, so we need to start conserving so we can invest.
For example, drive hybrids. Or if you can't afford that, use public transport like you said.

All while investing in alternative sources.

Again, how the hell can that be possible for those so economically disadvantaged that they can barely afford to pay for gas to get to work, or pay for the bus to take them there? You're not acknowledging that the majority of American citizens aren't economically secure enough to do what you're asking.

You went off-topic in the first reply of the thread, congrats?
This thread, once again, was made for ASHtre and TM22. As well as other people using those signatures that do nothing to contribute to the cause.

sh.t I feel like broken a record player.

That's because you keep demanding that people contribute to a cause by some obligation simply because they support its ideals, goals, or whatever.

O NO MY MATURITIS IS ACTIN UP LAWLS

Ya.

No, you lack in other fields (physics? perhaps math even?).
What I was saying there had nothing to do with this subject, just that you feel like you have to cover up for your ignorance in something else.
Are you a perfectionist? Or do you have OCD?

Perhaps even just having a high IQ makes you feel like you have to always be right (if so, get some counseling)? Or did your parents never tell you, "You're right honey!" so now you must go around trying to be right all the time?

I don't know, just making an inference.

Why'd you bring up my ignorance then? I can't use my intellect in certain fields that we're talking about to cover up my ignorance in fields that have nothing to do with what we're discussing.

Off topic.

I NEVER SAID THAT, I just said it only delays the inevitable.
Eventually we will run out of oil supplies regardless of how many people drive.
If only one person drives for the rest of time, it will still eventually run out...

GOOD POINT.

That was a joke. I understand that politicians sell out to personal interest groups and lobbyists. That's why, unless we get a lot of money and demand put forth into finding alternative energy sources, it will stay this way.

It's that second part that's important. You have to demand the change, not just pay for it.

You can have your thread back now. I'm outs.

Originally Posted by Hit U First

Most activists claim that they aren't.

Huh?

From all the activists I've intereacted with, such as the couple dozen at the peace rally on Monday on campus, they're very open and identify with activism...

Your pot joke didn't offend me; I was just stating that it was a dumb thing to say.

Originally Posted by PMblaneH8NATION

That first thing to NG was plain stupid. Even if he did smoke pot, that's completely irrelevant to anything being discussed in this thread.

And I lol'd at the reply to me

You're as bad as a liberal himself; focusing on the non-important.

From all the activists I've intereacted with, such as the couple dozen at the peace rally on Monday on campus, they're very open and identify with activism...

Well I don't know where you're from, but here in Oregon I'm surrounded by them all, yet they deny being one.