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Originally Posted by Publik Uprising View Post
I was searching for a definition for something and I accidentally came across this "wonderful" site:

http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan...onscience.html

[/list]And this: http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/evoluwrong.html








Seriously? That's the stupidest argument I've ever seen, but let me refute a bit of it:

Three problems for atheistic evolutionists

Evolutionists who reject God and miracles have three huge problems to explain.


You can start right there - not all proponents of evolution reject god. Ken Miller is a prominent biochemist and evolutionary biologist who is also a devote Catholic. He does believe we evolved from simple eukaryotic cells, though.

Problem No. 1
How did the universe come about?


What does the explanation of net energy with relation to astrophysical phenomena have to do with incorrect gene duplication and natural selection? That first problem is the sign of true ignorance.

Problem No. 2
How could living creatures come from non-life?


Good question. As a man with a Bachelor of Science IN BIOCHEMISTRY from a prestigious university, I am extraordinarily qualified to answer that question. All the components of life are, by definition, not alive, and can be found in nature. Creating nucleotides in a lab (even in low level organic chemistry classes) is a trivial thing to do. Anyone who has taken the full sequence of junior level biochemistry will probably be able to spend five hours in a lab and create a self replicating polymer that is, by definition, not alive.

The largest component of a cell, the cell wall, is also not alive. However, if you throw phospholipids in water, they automatically create micelles. Nothing is alive yet - we've just let the laws of chemistry do their thing, but we're amazingly close to something that fits the definition of life. The final component, sort of, is metabolism. That's a much larger and further reaching topic, and as a whole it's incredibly complicated, but broken down to it's individual parts, it's absurdly easy to understand.

Life from non-life? It's simple. Scientists want to do it in a lab, but are afraid that the micro organism they create will be something radically different than what our immune system has evolved to fight.

Problem No. 3
How could new genetic information arise?


What is information? If they mean new genes, we've seen them arise thousands of times in hundreds of different organisms. The term 'information' isn't used in biology or biochemistry once. New genetic information in the form of mutations happens all the time. We're all born with about 100 mutations, at least. Most of them are harmless, with about .01% being harmful, and .01% being beneficial. Natural Selection dictates that the harmful ones won't get passed down, but the beneficial ones, aka the new genetic information, will get passed down.

The proposition that speciation has never been observed is a direct lie. Isn't bearing false witness a serious sin? Why do creationists keep doing it? Speciation has been observed hundreds of times in the short time we've been studying evolution.

None of those things are problems to evolutionary biologists, and some don't even have a damn thing to do with biology at all.
 
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