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Originally Posted by Inconceivable  1. I like the attitude I have here. It actually helps me better put my post. Ty, for the hint, though. |
You're really annoying.
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2. I realize that noone but the mother/father should have rightful control over whether the fetus is aborted, but that doesn't change the fact that to me, it's wrong. I mean, any debater could ask a question, only to be stalemated by the same, opposite question. That's basically what you're doing. However, while I realize this, I also realize that the way I see it, it's murder, it's wrong, and it's inhuman. I could tell an almost-mother that abortion is wrong, but that doesn't mean she'll listen. I understand your point, but I already have a steady point of my own. :]
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Actually, what's really going on here is that I'm giving you my argument, and you're basically just saying "Well, it's my opinion" and basically hiding behind that. You've done no debating what so ever. Only stated your opinion and backed it up with small and clearly unacceptable translation for murder.
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1. No, I do believe that you've misunderstood me, mister General. My argument is that shutting off all cell activity would indeed shut off the entire units life force. When a fetus is aborted, ALL of it's cells are shut off and rendered incapable of any other reproduction/activity.
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No, I'm pretty sure you misunderstood me. When I said some cells and tissue, I meant the fetus.
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2. Well, that's pretty much an opinion, unless you can prove otherwise. No, I actually didn't leave out any of my definition. If you actually looked, those are two, not completely, but different definitions. I never argued that the cells and tissues of a fetus were human, but they ARE alive, which would make abortion murder.
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I just gave a definition which proved that abortion is not murder because it's not a human being. (Unless you call any type of killing murder, in which case you would be simply demonizing abortion by using technicalities to call it something evil).
And whether or not it's your opinion is irrelevant in this case. This is the
debate forum. Everything is challenged.
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Yes, I actually was referring to people. Please, though, prove to me that the human body count has not reached trillion. If you can, I'll admit defeat .. For this argument. Tyvm, captain. :]
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Cool.
The third chart in wikipedia on world population at various times. Look and see the data for yourself.
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you were the one who said the human death toll was in the trillions. The burden of proof obviously falls on you. To say that I should find evidence to the contrary is idiotic.